Spanish Mustang colt, unsure about color.

A few updated pics of Whiskey, 5 weeks old.
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His left side wanna-be brindle marks (I hope these are still there after he sheds!!!):
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More updated pictures...what's up with his mane??? It's really like that...it's not from the camera flash. It's black/brown/black.
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He is looking surprisingly like Coco did, was it decided that he is probably smokey black?

He looks like a Bay to me in these newer pics..but who knows!

Look at the new hair on his nose, brown, not black. It's possible brown cream?

I was for sure he was black or smokey black. But now he's got that brown hair growing in...so I have no clue what to think! It's also very shiney/metallicy. Especially the brown hair coming in around his eyes. It's hard to tell in the pictures but in real life it's very noticeable. Could he still be black/smokey black, and the hair is just getting sun faded already? It's been between 95-100 degrees every day for a few weeks now. It's hard to resist going out there and clipping him lol...but I promised myself I would just be patient.

Yes, as far as I'm concerned he's simply faded already. It can happen quickly.

Nawwwww! makes me want to give him scritches! I think foals were designed to be itchy to give us a good excuse to love all over them, lol!

He's very cute - are you going to test him - can't remember - please put us out of our misery ! I think poss smokey still.

Looks bay on my screen

More pics to ponder over. People are now telling me they think he's liver chestnut. New opinions anyone? His ears are BLACK! So are the places that have shed on his legs and in his flanks. They look nothing like the areas around his eyes and nose.
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Well that would indicate brown or smokey brown IMO.

I say dark bay :bounce ...I could clearly make out the black edging on his ears and that is something I've never been able to do on a black or a seal (brown). :bounce

I forget.. were you going to test him?

I think he could be simply a faded black. He's very similar to the faded color my blue roan colt (tested Ee aa no cream) was before he shed all his baby fluff. Notice the faded color on his face.

I wanted to add that my foal was born on the March 31st so by this time was mostly shed off. The photo was taken June 2008. I think it could be possible, he would have faded to the extent of Rusti's foal if he had been born later in the year. Rusti and I live in the same area so that may also affect fading.

I still think he's faded black too. His ears appear to have a black edge in that first pic but it's just the way the light is hitting them...they are solid black all over. As far as testing goes, if I still can't tell what he is by the time he turns 2, I'll get it done lol.

Admin - on your blue roan foal, where and when did you first notice roaning? Whiskey has white hairs on his rump that aren't obvious (they're shorter than his baby fluff). I have to scratch/part the hair to see them, but he has more every time I check.

I could see it where he got a scrape or started to shed. With this years foal it was much more obvious. I could tell he would be roan right away.

I still think hes a smokey black. Coco went through almost that same color change he is going through.

So what would the white hairs on his rump be considered? Sabino roaning like mom has?

New pics. I got brave and clipped him (well most of him anyways lol) and he was very well behaved. Didn't care about it at all, actually I think he enjoyed it. This was my first time clipping a horse and I know I missed places but I wasn't concerned about it being pretty. So anyhow he has about 4 white hairs that I found. Three on his rump and one on his withers. His body is dark (not black) and he has black and tan spots, none of them any bigger than a quarter. I didn't clip his legs but I'm pretty sure they're black.
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Some of the black spots:
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Black and tan spots in flank:
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Hmmm, interesting. Sure would like to see his test results.

Wow in the clipped pictures he looks liver chestnut.

He does look liver chestnut, except, like Rusti, I am sure his legs are black. Either that or they are the darkest red legs I have EVER seen on a horse (even my sooty livers' legs were lighter than that).

As to the "white" along his tailhead and flank, that looks more rabicano than sabino to me - but as I don't have any, it's jmho.

Rusti, can you get a good clear pix of his ears - especially the rims and tips (back of the ear especially). Make sure it is a fairly closeup view (getting the backside of the ear tips is easiest when they are eating :lol: ).

His birth color rules out a red base IMO.

I'd say he's Brown - possibly with Cream.

I'm more inclined to think smokey black. But if not, smokey brown (or possible just brown), I agree.

Would say smokey black, but what about Bend´or spots?? Would they come up on a horse not chestnut?

my bay mare has a bendor so yes they can - I think smokey black too but this one is interesting as I agree that Liver Chestnut and Brown are possiblities - Rusti please test !!!!! :bounce

I'm still leaning towards smokey black;he is doing the same thing Coco did as she grew up and she is pretty strongly smokey black now.