Silver or mushroom??????

Thank you!

I used to post on the old colour forum and then it dissapeared and i lost you :-o

Now i have found you i will drown you all in pictures again! LOL

The little mare isnt mine, possible purchase - i am paying to have her tested......place your bets now.

SILVER

OR

NO SILVER?

hee hee

Going by her sire, I'd say yes. If I hadn't known or seen a pic confirming her sire was a silver, I would have said no. Her colouring is quite similar to his, hence my change of mind. Do you have any other pics of her? She looks wet in that picture. I'm thinking she might show more flaxen when dry (that's if she is actually wet lol).

Glad you said that as its exactly what i was thinking.

I would have thought - oooh, what a slightly odd colour bay but no more than that, but as i know her sire carries silver i'm wondering so thought i'd investigate further!

figners crossed ;)

Wow she does look alot like her sire and half sister. This shall be interesting.

That´s an similar silver expression as with Danyahs Grandpa ....... (as far as he carries silver and it isn´t something else....... -- see, I´m getting careful :D )

But they are Welsh B and wasn´t there some rock-solid believe that there isn´t silver in the Welsh Breed? 1 month an she´s at our property -- and then it´s hair harvest time ........

Yeah they say there isn't silver in "proper Welsh"... but I don't know. I've never been one to make proclamations like that. Especially not with a gene that can hide so easily.

I believe this mares sire was the first purebred welsh to test positive for silver and lots of his progeny are silver carriers, i have only managed to find one picture of a silver grandchild of his though . . . . .

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[quote="accphotography"]Yeah they say there isn't silver in "proper Welsh"... but I don't know. I've never been one to make proclamations like that. Especially not with a gene that can hide so easily.[/quote]

:rofl

@ Haven

the mare looks just like my little girl!!!!! Oh myyyyyyyy :P

Is it your little girl WNP?

She's marked up on the stud website as sold so she's got to belong to someone!!!

LOL

@Krickette

got the pics today --- picked the best, but nothing fancy ------ weather couldn´t decide if good or bad

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@ Haven

that´s my little girl ...... mine, mine, mine, mine, mine :P :bounce :P :bounce :P

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She's beautiful.

What type of silver is she?

Don´t know yet --- she´s still with her mom till we can transfer her to our property -------- a month can be sooooo long!

First grooming I snatch me a couple of hairs and then I send them to UC-Davis.

What would you recommend for testing?
Her 3 full sisters are 1 black, 1 bay and 1 exactly her color ---

i would guess at silver black but i'm not really up on all this silver!!!

WNP - I'd test for extension, agouti and silver (that will give you all the info you need). I personally would think she's silver black (E?/aa/Z?), but could be a dark bay or brown (E?/A?/Z?).

She does remind me of the other brown silvers I've seen... Not quite light enough for bay silver, not quite dark enough for black silver.

Please explain extension for me (as in I don't know really what extension is to be honest).

I think if she is silver, she's either silver black, silver brown or silver dark bay. As said above.
She's definately gorgeous, that's for sure!

Extension is red or black. 'ee' is red, 'Ee' is black and 'EE' is homozygous black and thus can not produce a red. That is of course leaving out any modifiers (such as agouti, cream, etc.).

I would say it means the horse can produce black pigment. The Ee or EE horse will be black or bay based depending on its agouti status.

had results back on the mare i posted - she carries one copy of silver

is silver more noticeable in a homozygous individual? is there such a thing as homozygosity in silver?

As far as I know homozygous silver will be lighter than if the horse has only one copy of Z --- and yes, there are homozygous silvers -- a very helpful site came up on CH -- here´s the link: [url]http://www.triple-s-ranch.com/about_col…]

Wow she's pretty minimal then.

As far as anyone knows, silver is a simple dominant and thus both heterozygotes and homozygotes share the same expression.

Every gene has the possibility of being homozygous.

I do not think it is possible to tell by looking, no.
So the expression would be the same, h/Z or H/Z

Is mushroom the same as silver?

[quote="colorfan"]Is mushroom the same as silver?[/quote]
Nope, mushroom is completely different from silver.

Mushroom doesn't appear to act on black bases, only red. That would make it (to some extent) the [i]opposite[/i] of silver.