The Colors of Life

You are here

could he be homozygous silver?

Due to decreasing use over the years, I have decided to disable the forum functionality of the site.

Forums will still be available to view but new posts are no longer allowed.

26 posts / 0 new
Last post
supaspot60
supaspot60's picture
Offline
Last seen: 6 years 9 months ago
Joined: 02/13/09
could he be homozygous silver?
my stallion is a smoky silver black ,do you think he could be homozygous silver ? he has had some tests done he is Ee , no agouti one copy of cream , he hasnt been tested for silver as far as I know but looking at his offspring I think he could be homozygous silver , even some the red based sons have produced silvers from non silver mares , he has produced about 26 foals and not a single black one among them , would you take a look and tell me what you think please http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w176/supaspot/RHA%20Rangers%20Absolut...
rabbitsfizz
rabbitsfizz's picture
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 9 months ago
Joined: 02/16/09
Well, it does not actually

Well, it does not actually work that way!!
A horse can sire 100 foals, and every single one of them will be Silver. Then, tragically, the horse dies.
Does that mean he is H/Z??
No, it means the owners were incredibly lucky as the next 5,000 (long lived horse!!- er, apart from the dying bit.... :rofl ) might have been Chestnut/Bay/Black/Whatever.
The only easy way to tell is to test him.

website: please come and visit... http://www.shadowplayminihorses.co.uk/

supaspot60
supaspot60's picture
Offline
Last seen: 6 years 9 months ago
Joined: 02/13/09
I do plan to but I have

I do plan to but I have others that I want to do first :-)

Daylene Alford
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 1 week ago
Joined: 02/12/09
Actually 100 silver foals

Actually 100 silver foals would pretty much prove the horse was homozygous. Anything over 20 gives a good indication. If he has over 20 black based foals and they are all silver then I would say yes they chances are very good that he is homozygous.

supaspot60
supaspot60's picture
Offline
Last seen: 6 years 9 months ago
Joined: 02/13/09
did you watch the link ? to

did you watch the link ? to be honest Im not sure what colour half of those foals are , even he was first registered as a palomino because he was so pale as a foal .....hes the one in my profile pic

Crias
Crias's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 10 months ago
Joined: 07/25/10
homozygous and heterozygous

homozygous and heterozygous silver will visually appear the same, so there is no 100% sure way to know just by looking at him, but with that number of foals all appearing to be silver there is a good chance he is homozygous, but the only way to know for sure is to test him :)

Fledgesflight
Offline
Last seen: 7 years 9 months ago
Joined: 02/12/09
I'd say there's a darn good

I'd say there's a darn good chance! -I'd be willing to place a bet and I don't bet!!!

Monsterpony
Monsterpony's picture
Offline
Last seen: 5 years 7 months ago
Joined: 02/13/09
By scientific definition, 100

By scientific definition, 100 breedings is the minimum number considered to be proof of homozygosity (well, as close as science gets to giving a definitive positive result- science prefers to talk in ways of disproving things).

.

supaspot60
supaspot60's picture
Offline
Last seen: 6 years 9 months ago
Joined: 02/13/09
I think Ill send hairs off

I think Ill send hairs off after the christmas holidays , Im dying to know now !

rabbitsfizz
rabbitsfizz's picture
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 9 months ago
Joined: 02/16/09
Thanks MP- look, I know I am

Thanks MP- look, I know I am old but I am not senile- a horse can have 1,000 foals- they can ALL be broken coloured. If the last foal he sires is solid he is not H/Z it is as simple as that! If you think of the potential sperm a horse has and the potential breedings he can do (we thought nothing of 50 mares per season with the Arabs, and that is nothing against a successful racehorse) then statistics are just there to make fools of us.
Statistics prove, btw, that New York is 10ft deep in horse doo doo, but I don't think that it is.......

website: please come and visit... http://www.shadowplayminihorses.co.uk/

rabbitsfizz
rabbitsfizz's picture
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 9 months ago
Joined: 02/16/09
Sorry, did not mean to be so

Sorry, did not mean to be so ratty. I am arthritic and pretty p'ed off tonight!!!

website: please come and visit... http://www.shadowplayminihorses.co.uk/

critterkeeper
critterkeeper's picture
Offline
Last seen: 6 years 3 months ago
Joined: 02/15/09
I can't wait....

I can't wait for the test results to come in on this cutie... :grin:

Statistics prove, btw, that New York is 10ft deep in horse doo doo, but I don't think that it is.......

Haven't been there lately have you? :rofl

Kylene "A dog has lots of friends because he wags his tail and not his tongue." ~ Anonymous

rabbitsfizz
rabbitsfizz's picture
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 9 months ago
Joined: 02/16/09
Well no, as I am only

Well no, as I am only 4ft8ins, I did not want to risk it, not without stilts.....

website: please come and visit... http://www.shadowplayminihorses.co.uk/

supaspot60
supaspot60's picture
Offline
Last seen: 6 years 9 months ago
Joined: 02/13/09
(No subject)

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

supaspot60
supaspot60's picture
Offline
Last seen: 6 years 9 months ago
Joined: 02/13/09
well Ive decided I cant wait

well Ive decided I cant wait until after christmas so Ive pulled hairs today , Ill post the results as soon as I get them :grin:

Songcatcher
Songcatcher's picture
Offline
Last seen: 6 years 4 months ago
Joined: 03/12/09
rabbitsfizz wrote:Statistics

Statistics prove, btw, that New York is 10ft deep in horse doo doo, but I don't think that it is.......

Actually, I think that is pretty close to accurate, and Washington, DC is much worse. :hammer

Freeland Nash Valliant, OK 74764 www.songcatcherranch.webs.com

NZ Appaloosas
NZ Appaloosas's picture
Offline
Last seen: 6 years 7 months ago
Joined: 02/14/09
DC doesn't have horse caca it

DC doesn't have horse caca it has bullcaca...and boatloads of hot air :rofl :rofl :rofl

rabbitsfizz
rabbitsfizz's picture
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 9 months ago
Joined: 02/16/09
Well, that should keep the

Well, that should keep the shit afloat...
We have a similar problem in Westminster, I am constantly surprised that the clock tower is still visible........

website: please come and visit... http://www.shadowplayminihorses.co.uk/

supaspot60
supaspot60's picture
Offline
Last seen: 6 years 9 months ago
Joined: 02/13/09
I think the BullSh@t is rife

I think the BullSh@t is rife every where ..we are drowning in it

NZ Appaloosas
NZ Appaloosas's picture
Offline
Last seen: 6 years 7 months ago
Joined: 02/14/09
We just had an election (like

We just had an election (like last week) here, and already the opposition is crying foul (Labour lost again, leader resigned and now there's a cat fight on to see who gets to be the new leader) in that the re-elected PM didn't have a "mandate" to institute charter schools because it wasn't part of the campaign scene...

Not sure how much governing could be done if gov'ts stuck only to what was in their campaigns... :BH

supaspot60
supaspot60's picture
Offline
Last seen: 6 years 9 months ago
Joined: 02/13/09
just got the results back ,

just got the results back , he IS HOMOZYGOUS for silver !!! as he has Rowdy in his background I also tested him for LWO and he is negative , he has already has some tests , he is black based , can produce red foals and carries one copy of cream

RHA Rangers Absolut
American Miniature
nn
ZZ

Third Peppermint
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 11 months ago
Joined: 09/03/09
Nice! Congrats!

Nice! Congrats!

Daylene Alford
Offline
Last seen: 1 month 1 week ago
Joined: 02/12/09
Awsome!

Awsome!

Threnody
Offline
Last seen: 4 years 2 months ago
Joined: 07/29/10
Yay!

Yay!

supaspot60
supaspot60's picture
Offline
Last seen: 6 years 9 months ago
Joined: 02/13/09
I wouldnt have minded either

I wouldnt have minded either way , I just wanted to know because it will help me to identify the colours of his foals

dakotakdq
dakotakdq's picture
Offline
Last seen: 7 years 3 months ago
Joined: 03/11/09
Awesome news!!

Awesome news!!

[color=#800080][b]http://lenzoperformancehorses.webs.com/[/b][/color]
[color=#0000FF][url]http://www.freewebs.com/etongrove[/url] [/color]
Eton Grove Stud is the is home of:
Amaroo Forgotton Hero (QH) & Lazy D Rocks Golddigger (QH/ASH)

pandemonium