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??? on appaloosa genetics
I saw a POA pony yesterday that had an odd color. I question whether it might have been a silver. Couple things make me think no. Anyway the pony had one blue eye and the other eye was half blue half brown. This pony had a blaze the wrapped around the side of its nose a bit and one hind sock that seemed pretty straight across. So my question is can appaloosa pattern create blues eyes or do you think splash was involved?
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Re: ??? on appaloosa genetics

A wrapped around blaze is very typical of splash so I'd say that's where the blue eyes came from.

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Re: ??? on appaloosa genetics

Thanks! That's what I was thinking.

What do you think about her color? Sorry, it isn't the best photo.

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Re: ??? on appaloosa genetics

It looks like an Appaloosa mystery color to me! ;) I'm not even going to try to guess. :laugh1

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Re: ??? on appaloosa genetics

^ basically! when looking at her face though I see silver bay, dunno. she doesn't look red based to me and to have the flaxen mane/tail, I would say silver. :-??

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Re: ??? on appaloosa genetics

Remember, App patterns can mess with the mane and tail color too. I'm leaning toward a black or bay base but I'm not going to place any money on that!

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Re: ??? on appaloosa genetics

It is really difficult to tell base color on a varnishing appaloosa. My bay varnish app had almost completely white mane and tail.

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She's black.

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I'm gonna veto the silver, cuz, as MP says, Lp does funky stuff, including (especially??) to manes and tails. Remember Casey's now white eyelashes? LOL Base colour--kinda hard to figure out. She looks like she could be bay, but then again, she could possibly be black.

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Re: ??? on appaloosa genetics

I think this one is Silver Black base...it would be interesting to find out.
Diane I have a question on Appies.....but I am up on marestare and I though of it last night and now my mind is a complete blank so if it wanders across the vast empty plains of my mind again I shall try to lasso it and I'll post it as a new thread...OK??? :sign

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Re: ??? on appaloosa genetics

Dont forget this guy I fitted int he 80s, Bay QH mom and Sorrell App sire.

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I think this one is Silver Black base...it would be interesting to find out.
Diane I have a question on Appies.....but I am up on marestare and I though of it last night and now my mind is a complete blank so if it wanders across the vast empty plains of my mind again I shall try to lasso it and I'll post it as a new thread...OK??? :sign

Kewl beans...I'm always up for questions :bounce

Heather, I'm torn between him being a bay and being a black. Registered name? I can pull him up on the ApHC member's database.

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Re: ??? on appaloosa genetics

I dont remember it for sure but it was something liek "go white lightening" sire might have been ??? Thunders white lightening? would have been an 80s horse.

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Okaaaay....Go Whitelightening, 1986 Florida born gelding, white with spots over loin and hip is registered as a PALOMINO! He's by TS Whitelightening, app stallion, out of Ugolea, qh mare. (http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/go+white..." onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

Ts Whitelightening, 1980 Florida born stallion, chestnut/sorrel, white over body and hips. With the dam being a QH, I can't check on her colour. I have however just asked on another forum where there are some horse historians to see if I can dig up some info on her.

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Re: ??? on appaloosa genetics

What's her name?

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Ugolea...poor thing...

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Wow. That IS terrible.

She's listed as bay. Probably doesn't help as far as markings and I don't *think* I can get those.

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Re: ??? on appaloosa genetics

Hmmmm....so that really doesn't answer the "palomino" question (and ignoring the colour of the horse in the photo... :laugh1 )

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Palomino LOL :laugh1 :rofl

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I swear I remember that we researched this horse before and discussed the possibility of him being palomino.

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Re: ??? on appaloosa genetics

Honestly I think he'd just about have to be. It's so unlikely that he could be silver and I find it HIGHLY unlikely that the app genes alone are causing the mane and tail to be THAT pure of color. I'd say either a flaxen liver or a dark/sooty palomino. His pasterns are red, but that means nothing when it comes to Apps. His base really does look black, but I just can't see that mane and tail happening on a black without silver.

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I swear I remember that we researched this horse before and discussed the possibility of him being palomino.

Oh, I know we did...but at that time, the ApHC didn't have the pedigree info available to members online.

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Re: ??? on appaloosa genetics

I did see both is his parents and I can PROMISE you they mare was typical Bay, normal..and the sire was red red red sorrell. Nothing out of the odd.