She seems to have them in the spring, right before a shed... What causes dapples?
Warm climates do. :twisted: Send her to me. I will keep sending you pictures periodically. :mrgreen: (just kidding or course)
Where do you live Grullagirl? It is beautiful there! 8-)
I live in BC Canada.. Yup, she does have reddish colored winter hair over her legs, which sheds out, and she gets more like chocolate points, not black. Int he summer she looks like this horse for color at grullablue http://www.grullablue.com/mares/cher.htm
I just wanted to share something odd...
My dun mare shed her wintercoat this spring, and I had noticed during the last bit of her shedding that along her upper back she was shedding in a DAPPLE pattern. :shock: The thin band of hair that visibly seperates the rounded dapples from each other, was the last hair to be 'let go' and it looked like she had inch-long hair surrounding the dapple patches.
*very sorry, but I took no photos of the phenomenon* I thought it looked hideous; very ratty-looking, so I left the camera in the house until she finished shedding.
heh, that's cool Heidi. I have noticed that different color hairs will grow to different lengths and thickness and shed out at different times. My tobianos shed the white on the neck first, then the color. :?: I am so happy with spring, the poof is almost gone, just some hairy bellies left (except for Chase who allways sheds a month after everyone else. :BH )
She could most definitely be cream as her maternal grandsire is registered as a buckskin.
ETA: I am EXTREMELY jealous of you having one of their horses. When I first started looking, I went to their site an was going to buy from them but they ended up closing down. Do you know the story there? I almost cried I wanted one of their babies so bad.
Heidi, Tiger Lily (bay) and Cisco Kid (buckskin) both shed out this year in dappling patterns. If I recall correctly, the dapples were the last to shed out.
She could most definitely be cream as her maternal grandsire is registered as a buckskin.
ETA: I am EXTREMELY jealous of you having one of their horses. When I first started looking, I went to their site an was going to buy from them but they ended up closing down. Do you know the story there? I almost cried I wanted one of their babies so bad.
Divorce.. Sucks! They had a nice breeding program, its too bad one of them couldnt keep it going.
I live in BC Canada.. Yup, she does have reddish colored winter hair over her legs, which sheds out, and she gets more like chocolate points, not black. Int he summer she looks like this horse for color at grullablue http://www.grullablue.com/mares/cher.htm
Is there ANY chance she has silver? Is this just something grullas sometime have? The horse you posted the link to REALLY looks like she could be silver too. How strange.
Unfortunatley, I am new to this whole Genetic thing.. So still learning lots! ALTHOUGH, on the grullablue site, it does say when they are light like mine (referred to as Silver grullo), that there is a good chance they carry the creme gene.. I will just have to test her to find out! lol Does one parent have to be a pally or buckskin or dilute of some kind in order to carry cream? So confusing!
I am going to run outside and get pics right now in the sunlight....
IME cream really doesn't lighten the grulla coat very much at all. I think it's merely coincidence. Now when I say silver, I don't mean the shade, I mean the silver gene. Red legs on a black based horse is one common indication of silver. The mane of the horse you posted the link to is suspicious as well. It could just be frosting, but coupled with the red legs, it's interesting.
Okay, here we go, I got lots of good Dun factor pics for fun: but here is a foal pic:
Yearling photo
couple of days ago, doesnt show much, but I like it..hehe
Now, with both parents being grullo, is it even POSSIBLE for her to carry cream? or is it "creme"..
Heres the neat dun factor pics:
Oh, one more thing: After reading grullablue site, I am under the impression that she coined the term "silver grulla" to distinquish the lighter ones from the "slate" grulla but is not really a "recognized" term?
LEG BAR pictures:
Hind legs here:
shoulder shadowing:
and dorsal shots with tail frosting:
What they said ^. Grullo/as can easily hide cream.
The term "silver grullo" is just ridiculous IMHO. It solely describes a shade, not a genotype. Worse yet, it IMPLIES a genotype (ie a silver carrier) that is simply not true most of the time.
I'm sure she will turn up here, if she has not already. I suspect a new nickname will be in order though (maybe Coalie this time... who knows). I haven't seen her at any of the regular places in a while. Of course I quit going to the game though.
I only ever ran into her at EC which was why I was SO unprepared to deal with her! If she's here she has not posted -- I think I would recognize her writing style anywhere.
If I could find the website dedicated to telling her story and being a "support group" for the people she has tortured, I'd send it to you. Sadly I've forgotten the address.
Warm climates do. :twisted: Send her to me. I will keep sending you pictures periodically. :mrgreen: (just kidding or course)
Where do you live Grullagirl? It is beautiful there! 8-)
I live in BC Canada.. Yup, she does have reddish colored winter hair over her legs, which sheds out, and she gets more like chocolate points, not black. Int he summer she looks like this horse for color at grullablue
http://www.grullablue.com/mares/cher.htm
http://trainingbadgesbluesnjazz.blogspot.com/
I just wanted to share something odd...
My dun mare shed her wintercoat this spring, and I had noticed during the last bit of her shedding that along her upper back she was shedding in a DAPPLE pattern. :shock: The thin band of hair that visibly seperates the rounded dapples from each other, was the last hair to be 'let go' and it looked like she had inch-long hair surrounding the dapple patches.
*very sorry, but I took no photos of the phenomenon* I thought it looked hideous; very ratty-looking, so I left the camera in the house until she finished shedding.
heh, that's cool Heidi. I have noticed that different color hairs will grow to different lengths and thickness and shed out at different times. My tobianos shed the white on the neck first, then the color. :?: I am so happy with spring, the poof is almost gone, just some hairy bellies left (except for Chase who allways sheds a month after everyone else. :BH )
She could most definitely be cream as her maternal grandsire is registered as a buckskin.
ETA: I am EXTREMELY jealous of you having one of their horses. When I first started looking, I went to their site an was going to buy from them but they ended up closing down. Do you know the story there? I almost cried I wanted one of their babies so bad.
Love me, Love my pets!
Heidi, Tiger Lily (bay) and Cisco Kid (buckskin) both shed out this year in dappling patterns. If I recall correctly, the dapples were the last to shed out.
Angela www.freewebs.com/twincreeksfarm
Divorce.. Sucks! They had a nice breeding program, its too bad one of them couldnt keep it going.
http://trainingbadgesbluesnjazz.blogspot.com/
Is there ANY chance she has silver? Is this just something grullas sometime have? The horse you posted the link to REALLY looks like she could be silver too. How strange.
Unfortunatley, I am new to this whole Genetic thing.. So still learning lots! ALTHOUGH, on the grullablue site, it does say when they are light like mine (referred to as Silver grullo), that there is a good chance they carry the creme gene.. I will just have to test her to find out! lol Does one parent have to be a pally or buckskin or dilute of some kind in order to carry cream? So confusing!
I am going to run outside and get pics right now in the sunlight....
http://trainingbadgesbluesnjazz.blogspot.com/
yes paly,buckskin, or smokey black ..that is the creme one that slips by alot of times to those that dont obcess about color like us LOL
IME cream really doesn't lighten the grulla coat very much at all. I think it's merely coincidence. Now when I say silver, I don't mean the shade, I mean the silver gene. Red legs on a black based horse is one common indication of silver. The mane of the horse you posted the link to is suspicious as well. It could just be frosting, but coupled with the red legs, it's interesting.
Okay, here we go, I got lots of good Dun factor pics for fun: but here is a foal pic:









Yearling photo
couple of days ago, doesnt show much, but I like it..hehe
Now, with both parents being grullo, is it even POSSIBLE for her to carry cream? or is it "creme"..
Heres the neat dun factor pics:
Oh, one more thing: After reading grullablue site, I am under the impression that she coined the term "silver grulla" to distinquish the lighter ones from the "slate" grulla but is not really a "recognized" term?
LEG BAR pictures:
Hind legs here:
shoulder shadowing:
and dorsal shots with tail frosting:
http://trainingbadgesbluesnjazz.blogspot.com/
Dont know but love them :) test for cream or creme LOL either is fine just lazy typing 8-)
I was thinking her momma might have been a cream carrier and the breeder missed it. It's possible since the damsire is buckskin.
Love me, Love my pets!
Cream or creme is personal preference...
Yes, Cream is very easily hidden in Black- so one or both could have had it in addition to Dun.
What they said ^. Grullo/as can easily hide cream.
The term "silver grullo" is just ridiculous IMHO. It solely describes a shade, not a genotype. Worse yet, it IMPLIES a genotype (ie a silver carrier) that is simply not true most of the time.
gah, acc, just hearing those words is giving me Branik flashbacks. *shudder*
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Oh Lord. Now *I'm* having Branik flashbacks. *shudder*
:laugh1
Sorry, I had to share. I knew I'd get you going too!
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I'm sure she will turn up here, if she has not already. I suspect a new nickname will be in order though (maybe Coalie this time... who knows). I haven't seen her at any of the regular places in a while. Of course I quit going to the game though.
I only ever ran into her at EC which was why I was SO unprepared to deal with her! If she's here she has not posted -- I think I would recognize her writing style anywhere.
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hmmmm.. Sounds like there is a story behind this? :coffee
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If I could find the website dedicated to telling her story and being a "support group" for the people she has tortured, I'd send it to you. Sadly I've forgotten the address.
wait.. what? am I being slow and you are being sarcastic, or are you for real?
Angela www.freewebs.com/twincreeksfarm
No. I'm absolutely serious.
Is this the site you mean? http://antier-whyersucks.blogspot.com/20..." onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Diane
That's even ANOTHER one. :rofl :laugh1
"Why Branik is Mean."
bwahahahahahahaha!
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Aww, I read the blog for a while just now but quit when I got to some totally wrong information about Ideal (the Oldenburg stallion).
I want to know the address of the other site. :)
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It's in my email somewhere... I'll see if I can dig it up.
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