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Katie January 13, 2012 January 13, 2012

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Splashed white!!! (everyone probably already knows this, but I didn't, and I am excited)

Daylene Alford Wed, 01/18/2012 - 10:01

[quote]Oooh Katie! You tease! I want details, I love drama so long as I'm not involved haha![/quote]

I completely agree spill it. :twisted: :grin:

Threnody Wed, 01/18/2012 - 14:02

It's because there is an aversion to admitting anything besides sabino and rabicano exists in arabians. Sabino is accepted, and anything splash is labeled sabino because splash implies impurity in the breeding to arabian purists, and since they know their animals are purebred, their loud marked blue eyed arabs are sabino, not splash. Because anything pinto cannot be purebred, even if sabino is a pinto pattern too. Even if these arabs would be labeled splash in any other breed the registries do not have splash on their forms so it can't be splash. Can we see the tangled web yet? I think my leg got caught in it.

ACC was talking on HGS about how she has met thoroughbred people who deny the existence of splash in their breed.

Itz Wed, 01/18/2012 - 14:18

[quote=rabbitsfizz]I'm not sure, from what I read (possibly misunderstanding?) that it covers all sorts of Splash- I was worried that it might be a another Sab1 sort of thing??

UK Shetlands are known to have Splash, it is Sabino they do not have.[/quote]

So the UK shetlands does carry Splash markings? Oh, I'd love to see some! I'm not that familiar with shetland breeding, but most I've seen have had very little facial/leg white at all. A breeder hoever claimed that there is no splash in the european shetlands, so I really didn't know what to think. If anyone do have photos of really nice UK shetlands displaying Splash I'd love to see them!:D

Monsterpony Wed, 01/18/2012 - 16:28

I was actually just paging through an old horsebook that has a super splashy UK shetland picture in it. I'll scan the page as soon as I get my scanner up and running.

NZ Appaloosas Wed, 01/18/2012 - 18:03

[quote=Threnody]I know this is terrible, but who else is hoping for splash to be confirmed in breeds where it isn't accepted to exist despite evidence to the contrary?[/quote]

ymwhisle ymwhisle ymwhisle ymwhisle :bounce :bounce :bounce :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Then those who are currently %-( %-( %-( %-( won't be able to %-( %-( %-( %-( any more, or even call :-t :-t .

Instead, they can all retire to a corner and ~x( ~x( ~x( ~x( and :hammer :hammer :hammer :hammer

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

And we of course will be :HB :HB :HB :HB and :toast :toast :toast :toast :toast

NZ Appaloosas Wed, 01/18/2012 - 18:07

[quote=JNFerrigno]
That was the one I was waiting for. Arab purists make me laough. Heck, pretty much any purist this day and age would give me a good giggle LOL. But oh, they make it so much fun.[/quote]

I pointed out splash markings on this appy person's foal, and recommended checking the stallion (fewspot) since the mare was pretty 'clean'. I got SLAMMED by the person for trash-talking his horses (HUH?????)

Diane

JNFerrigno Wed, 01/18/2012 - 21:35

[quote=NZ Appaloosas]I pointed out splash markings on this appy person's foal, and recommended checking the stallion (fewspot) since the mare was pretty 'clean'. I got SLAMMED by the person for trash-talking his horses (HUH?????)[/quote]
Well of course Diane, why would you know what you're talking about. Not like you breed Appaloosas or anything LOL

Songcatcher Wed, 01/18/2012 - 22:01

[quote]I pointed out splash markings on this appy person's foal, and recommended checking the stallion (fewspot) since the mare was pretty 'clean'. I got SLAMMED by the person for trash-talking his horses (HUH?????)

Diane
.[/quote]
So, I guess not everyone is as happy about this test as I am. :-?

I sent off samples for six horses yesterday, and I can hardly wait to get the results back.

Katie Thu, 01/19/2012 - 06:37

When I finally am equestrianly enabled again, my poor equine is going to be half bald on the first day ymwhisle :rofl

CMhorses Thu, 01/19/2012 - 06:59

I don't know how you guys have the money to get all these tests done! But I guess I am a poor college student :rofl

Itz Thu, 01/19/2012 - 09:52

Haha, the sad part is that I too am I a poor collage student, and I am just about to order and pay for 2 splash tests for horses that aren't even mine...XD

I guess it's all about motivation... along with the ability to be able to get yourself fed and happy on noodles and water 6 days a week or so... :P

CMhorses Thu, 01/19/2012 - 10:58

I've already got one ready to send for red factor,agouti,silver and cream, just waiting on the money to save up; and we have so many mares and geldings I'd love to get frame and splash tested.

rabbitsfizz Thu, 01/19/2012 - 13:58

Yes, I know that UK Shetlands do not have Sabino.
I was actually querying if the Spalsh gene was going to turn out polygenetic in the same way that Sabino is, and that we would end up with a test that was about as much use as Sab1

rabbitsfizz Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:02

I wonder if the aversion to Splash is a US thing?? (in Arabs, I mean) as I have not heard it here.
OTOH things like this seem to go in breeds rather than countries.
We always called them "high white" and "splashy" and I cannot remember ever having been tarred and feathered ymwhisle
I can remember a stallion, Ring of Fire bred, who had four high white, a big belly splash and one blue eye.......

Songcatcher Thu, 01/19/2012 - 15:52

[quote=CMhorses]I don't know how you guys have the money to get all these tests done! But I guess I am a poor college student :rofl[/quote]
Well, I don't smoke, I don't drink alcohol, its been at least a couple of years since Ive rented a movie, and probably a decade since I've been to a theater. Not saying that you do any of these things, but I think maybe that combined has saved me enough to pay the $150 for six tests. :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
This is the kind of thing I splurge on.
I just saw on TV last night that the average smoker spends $100,000 on cigarets in a lifetime. ymwhisle Man, what am I going to do with all that money I'm saving? :rofl :rofl :rofl

Songcatcher Thu, 01/19/2012 - 17:14

[quote=CMhorses]Yea, I don't smoke or drink, just rent an apt and go to school, pay utilities and food for me and bunnies/kitties.[/quote]
Keep it up. I'm old enough and optimistic enough to believe it will pay off in the long run. :grin:

NZ Appaloosas Mon, 01/23/2012 - 19:04

I agree with Songcatcher. The good news is the $25 for the splash test, so I have been told, is for ALL THREE!! :bounce :bounce

Diane

Danni Tue, 01/31/2012 - 16:35

[quote=Itz]So the UK shetlands does carry Splash markings? Oh, I'd love to see some! I'm not that familiar with shetland breeding, but most I've seen have had very little facial/leg white at all. A breeder however claimed that there is no splash in the european shetlands, so I really didn't know what to think. If anyone do have photos of really nice UK shetlands displaying Splash I'd love to see them!:D[/quote]

Mostly shetlands only seem to show splash markings when they also have tobiano, but shetlands do on occasion have white on their face in the solids, even if it's just a star. Considering white socks never really happen without tobiano I think shetland face white is due to splash. Plus I've seen shetlands with blue eyes, which to me says splash. However the recent SW tests may not test for their splash. I hope it does though!

These shetland ponies are tobianos, but I think also show SW characteristics

Danni Tue, 01/31/2012 - 20:41

Nuh, they are definitely tobiano. The first black and white for instance I know very well, and definitely throws normal marked tobianos to solid mares. I've never seen those sort of loud splash markings, in Australia anyway, without tobiano also being present. It's like one is boosting the other, or for the less tobiano looking ones maybe some sort of white suppression. If tobiano was only defined as crossing the topline, it would be a bit stuffed with many of the tobi shetlands I see!

Bannerminis Fri, 02/03/2012 - 11:34

I am tempted to test my mare Shimmer and stallion Sunny for Splash.
I have to colour test my 2011 colt to see what he is and I want to test the filly for cream so was thinking I may as well send them all off together.

So what do you think is it worth testing these two for Splash??
Shimmer has tested SB1 and Sunny Negative (they both tested negative for Tobiano and Frame)

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Itz Sun, 02/05/2012 - 15:19

That's some fantastic markings! Some of them definitely looks quite "splashy".
I have seen a few shetlands with blue eyes and facial markings that looked a lot like splash to me. On the other hand, I believe that those who say that there are no splash in shetlands are referring to the more loudly marked individualt, that would be classic examples of Splash Overo.
I wouldn't be surpriced if they didn't test positive for the 3 versions of splash though. Would however be wonderful if the owner of one of those with a lot of characteristics would like to test their pony!

Thank you for the photos though! That's some beautiful ponies and interesting markings.

Danni Sun, 02/05/2012 - 16:36

Yeh no overo in the shetlands which does narrow it down a bit for what causes their markings. And yes I agree that people probably say no splash in the breed as you don't get loud non tobiano splashed whites like the paint horses and mini's get. Because of that I wouldn't be surprised if it was a different SW to the tests so far. I personally have no doubt they have splash though

Songcatcher Sun, 02/05/2012 - 18:34

[quote=Danni]I agree that people probably say no splash in the breed as you don't get loud non tobiano splashed whites like the paint horses and mini's get. Because of that I wouldn't be surprised if it was a different SW to the tests so far. I personally have no doubt they have splash though[/quote]
If that is the case, it would explain why some minimally marked, blue eyed Minis test negative.

Itz Tue, 02/07/2012 - 11:17

[quote=rabbitsfizz]Yes, I know that UK Shetlands do not have Sabino.
I was actually querying if the Spalsh gene was going to turn out polygenetic in the same way that Sabino is, and that we would end up with a test that was about as much use as Sab1[/quote]

[b]Rabbitzfizz[/b] – the comment about UK shetlands not having splah in my comment (#35) was actually not mine. By some reason it ended up in my own answer instead of in the quote area with the rest of your comment:P

[b]Songcatcher[/b] and [b]Danni[/b] – I do agree with you!
It’ll definitely be exiting to see what kind of result we might get when more horses and different breeds will be tested.