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PamelaTX March 25, 2009 February 22, 2011

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[color=#8000BF][b]The foal belongs to a friend in a Yahoo horse group. Dam is palomino & sire is palomino. She says she believe the foal to be perlino. She said her eyes are yellow colored so I'm assuming amber?? Y'alls thoughts??[/b][/color] [color=#8000BF][b]Newborn[/b][/color] [img]http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb252/KountryGirlKreationz/Horses/DS…] [img]http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb252/KountryGirlKreationz/Horses/DS…] [img]http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb252/KountryGirlKreationz/Horses/DS…] [color=#8000BF][b]Couple days old[/b][/color] [img]http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb252/KountryGirlKreationz/Horses/DS…] [img]http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb252/KountryGirlKreationz/Horses/DS…]

NZ Appaloosas Sun, 03/29/2009 - 19:46

[quote="Jenks"]Phenotypically, they look the same (perlino and double smokey?), I'm sure that's what they were saying maybe? Genotype is obviously different.[/quote]

The person who was arguing with me was saying that both genetically and visually there was no difference. I thought RMT was involved in the same argument as me, but I could be wrong. :o As I told the person, good luck trying to explain things when the person who bred her black to a smokey cream hoping for a buckskin didn't get one :laugh1

In my eyes, I can see a difference in the legs between a perlino and a smokey creme--perlinos seem to have a bit more "definition" in colour between black points and "bay" torso, whereas smokey creme seems to be more blended in colour when moving up the leg.

Diane

Heidi Sun, 03/29/2009 - 20:48

[u]*disclaimer![/u] [i]I recently joined and am not familiar with the site yet. When I made this reply, I did not realize there were three more pages of discussion, so please disregard if it appears I am repeating old information. [/i]
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If both parents are [i]Palomino[/i] there is no genetic way the foal could be [i]Perlino[/i].

The reason why is because all red-based horses are homozygous for the recessive extension gene: ee. All black-based horses carry a dominant extension gene: E. Black horses can be either homozygous: EE or heterozygous: Ee. Black horses will also have no Agouti, being aa. Bay horses are black-based horses [i]with[/i] Agouti, and like black, the bay horse also only needs one gene of each (extension and agouti) to visibly be bay. Example: EeAa (bay) and EeAaCrcr (buckskin).
A Perlino must carry at least one E, one A and two creams: CrCr. Example: EeAaCrCr (Perlino).
Since this foals parents were both Palomino (ee), there is no way the foal could have E.
heidi

[i]Black, Bays and their dilute colors can be EE, Ee, aa(black), AA, or Aa in addition to the cream Crcr (single dilute) or CrCr (double dilute). Red based (chestnut/sorrel, palomino and cremello) will always be ee, with differing variations of aa, AA or Aa and single/double dilute of the cream gene to make pallys and cremellos. The agouti gene will not visibly affect the red-based horse, but if that red-based horse is bred to a black based horse, the agouti could affect the foal's black-based color.[/i]
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