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Black/Smokey Black/Blue Roan or a Combo? *test results 5/11/12*

Hey ladies! We had our first foal born this morning from our palomino roan (for this year). Dam is a grulla. I'm really bad with black bases at birth so I want everyone's opinion on if you think the foal will stay black/smokey black/blue roan or a combo of them? I know its hard to say when they are black but just thought maybe for fun. ;) Papa [img]http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216789_124065707668910_1…] Dam (sire was blue roan and she's shedding out to have odd white over her back and dorsal and front legs above the knees and chest/neck area) [img]http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/375690_28093213…] Baby [img]http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/532853_29838419357039…] [img]http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/576639_29838438690370…] [img]http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/534865_29838458357035…] [img]http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/525673_29838541023693…] [img]http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/549256_29838569023691…] [img]http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s720x720/576580_29838601690354…] [img]http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/295290_29838622…] Also attached two photos of her genitals. Thanks!

rabbitsfizz Sat, 04/21/2012 - 04:50

Nice foal, depth of colour would indicate something else was going on!
Mare looks to be Brown based- do you know she is Roan, as my Buckskin (black based) did all that funky "frosting" thing and had no Roan. So foal may get Roan from the sire, he is very minimal, foal may go the same way.
In spite of the depth of colour on the foal I see Brown, not Black base.....

Daylene Alford Sat, 04/21/2012 - 08:24

The foal is exactly the same color as my blue roan was at birth. He Had a few white hairs in his flank. I'm going to guess blue roan with or without cream.

TheSwingHorse Sat, 04/21/2012 - 15:49

What is the difference between grulla and her being brown based (appearance wise)? The lady we purchased her from tests everything and she was sold as a grulla. Curious now. I was thinking the filly's coat just looked that way since her skin is very pinky.

Will be interesting to see! Waiting for the owner to test her *anxious to know about cream and roan*!

RiddleMeThis Mon, 04/23/2012 - 11:11

In reply to by Daylene Alford

[quote=TheSwingHorse]What is the difference between grulla and her being brown based (appearance wise)? The lady we purchased her from tests everything and she was sold as a grulla. Curious now. I was thinking the filly's coat just looked that way since her skin is very pinky.
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Grulla tests as black. And a brown dun tests as "bay" anywhere except PetDNA. S
o if the previous owner tests for everything and she was sold to you as grulla I would assume she tests E? aa.

TheSwingHorse Mon, 04/23/2012 - 15:08

Oh, good to know... lol Wasn't sure if the color around her muzzle and eyes was pink from birth or what... So you think blue roan?

Daylene Alford Mon, 04/23/2012 - 16:15

Yep...

Well, you won't know for sure about the roan until she sheds but I think the chances are good she's roan.

rabbitsfizz Tue, 04/24/2012 - 04:27

I think the depth of colour indicates there is something going on apart form just Black, so whether she is Brown (as I still think possible) or just Black, I am pretty sure she will Roan. Is that a dorsal or just a trick of the light? She is SO shiny!!

TheSwingHorse Fri, 05/11/2012 - 20:51

Got our test results back.

The mom is a grulla roan!

And baby is a.... smokey blue roan! :D

Will attach test results. :) We are beyond thrilled and will be retaining her for future breeding to our new dunalino stud colt. :)

critterkeeper Wed, 05/16/2012 - 15:54

:love I am thrilled you got the result you wanted...she is adorable (she'd look real nice in MY barn...hehehe...so if she disappears no need to come look here)... ymwhisle

Daylene Alford Thu, 05/17/2012 - 09:51

Not necessarily, since the mom is a grulla + roan she could easily have gotten E and roan from the dam and e and no roan from the sire.

TheSwingHorse Thu, 05/17/2012 - 20:51

I read that as the small e coming from dad. Not sure if she was saying who the roan came from. I suspected roan coming from the dad since I read about the roan link to extension but I still can't grasp that so well... lol