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Pali + Chestnut= Bay

I tried looking through the forums, but I'm research retarded. Palamino Amircan Cream Draft daddy [img]http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l175/Raealyn/horses/14125_11951431806…] Chestnut paint mom. No idea the breed. [img]http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l175/Raealyn/horses/14125_11951432140…] Paint baby, chestnut on the body, black in the mane and tail and muzzle [img]http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l175/Raealyn/horses/14125_11951433140…] My sister wants to buy this colt. I thought I read somewhere this cross wouldn't produce bay?

Fledgesflight Wed, 05/12/2010 - 18:28

It can't.
If both the parents are red based then the foal is too (albit with a darker mane and tail which IS possible:)
Otherwise it's the wrong sire listed.

supaspot60 Wed, 05/12/2010 - 18:38

is that common ? I would have made the same mistake because I thought it was bay too so my first thought would have been wrong sire !
mum is easy on the eye

Third Peppermint Wed, 05/12/2010 - 20:07

I thought American Cream Drafts were champagne? Does the foal look half draft to anyone?

Okay! I got it! Mom is chestnut and dad is silver bay/black champagne!

Rhaige9 Wed, 05/12/2010 - 20:13

Ok, I looked at the site. Just talked to my sister. He's not pali, he's amber champange. Does that make more sense?

TheRedHayflinger Wed, 05/12/2010 - 20:18

sire looks to be almost the exact same color as my old TWH gelding--who was a flaxen gold champagne (chestnut/champagne)

edit to add: they DO have another stallion....that could have sired a bay. http://www.walkerfarms.net/Bris.html

in fact, compared to their other half draft foals...I see nothing half draft about that baby

RiddleMeThis Wed, 05/12/2010 - 21:34

Baby is bay and that champagne is not amber or classic. The sire they are claiming is the sire is not the sire IMO.

Danni Thu, 05/13/2010 - 00:04

[quote="admin"]agree with RMT and ACC[/quote]

Yep me too, that foal is bay and parents are red based, thus not that sire!

TheRedHayflinger Thu, 05/13/2010 - 10:07

look back at my last post on here lipigirl. That foal doesn't even look half draft in build compared to their other half draft babies....and they have a stallion on premises that COULD be the sire. I linked to him I believe

lipigirl Thu, 05/13/2010 - 11:23

Yes I did see it RHF and I do agree that it's unlikely but stranger things have been seen on this board....what does the owner say when asked about it /

rabbitsfizz Thu, 05/13/2010 - 11:53

Basically the simplest answer is the most straightforward.
The stud has simply made a mistake as to who the sire is.
So long as they test the foal and put the mistake right there is no real harm done as I am assuming you would be buying the foal based on the fact that you like it, rather than having to have that particular, somewhat obscure, pedigree?
I would actually rather [i]not[/i] have the draft as the sire! :booty

Rhaige9 Thu, 05/13/2010 - 19:40

My sister is the loon who wants him, even after I explained that surely can't be the sire. American Cream Draft has got her panties all in a whirl. She's interested in the colt because the dad. I also poitned out the mares crazy front pasturns.

rabbitsfizz Fri, 05/14/2010 - 09:31

Well, if she is buying because of the sire she is going to be [i]very[/i] disappointed!
I cannot for the life of me understand this desire to ride draft horses!

Danni Fri, 05/14/2010 - 10:00

Well they are good to ride if you don't want to do too much :D

I must admit though the TB/Clydey show jumpers in Oz seem to be doing very well?

Jenks Sun, 05/23/2010 - 15:42

Ha! The homozygous Tobi jumped the fence! LOL Fizz is right! It does happen!

I'm kidding, but the Tobi is better looking than the draft, so the foal is better off.