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How do I breed this...

So I have a stallion who has a black base and the greying gene but his mane and tail have greyed out quicker than his body and are silver. His sire is the same colour but I think his dam is what we call cream dun (cream base also with the greying gene). All of my mares are cream duns, how likely am I to breed one his colour? Sorry if Im not explaining myself, I have not read up on colour genetics for years. This is the stallion... [IMG]http://i39.tinypic.com/htwrwh.jpg[/IMG]

rabbitsfizz Thu, 04/05/2012 - 15:47

There is no way to breed a specific sort of Grey as Grey is transient and the stallion will be white eventually, as will all Greys.
Certain colours do seem to slow down or speed up the greying process but it is very hit and miss.

Elmere Thu, 04/05/2012 - 17:08

In reply to by Daylene Alford

Thanks, so its just a case of luck of the draw then? :/ Is it not more common with a black base though? And if it is what are the chances of me breeding black rather than cream?

rabbitsfizz Fri, 04/06/2012 - 15:15

I am pretty sure that is a Highland so out breeding would not be an option- I have been suspect of Silver in Highlands before and there is Roan and Cream + Dun as well, pretty much everything, but, IME, Silver turns Grey to white in the womb or very rapidly after birth, not isolates the mane and tail in this way. OTOH, how about Mushroom?

RMT.... is the horse pictured tested for Silver Black?

RiddleMeThis Sat, 04/07/2012 - 02:26

In reply to by Daylene Alford

[quote=rabbitsfizz]
RMT.... is the horse pictured tested for Silver Black?[/quote]
Yep he is.

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Threnody Sat, 04/07/2012 - 08:25

He looks like a palomino gray to me. But palomino + gray can still cause phases where the mane and tail are dark. Sadly just luck of the draw and the color is only temporary as others said before. Wish there was a way to keep the shades of gray we prefer.

rodeoratdogs Sat, 04/07/2012 - 14:25

Elmere, do you have picture's of your stallion when he was younger? I would love to see his greying process, I love how his mane and tail are so silky white, and with the contrast of his very dark feathers. :X

Elmere Sun, 04/08/2012 - 04:36

In reply to by Daylene Alford

No I dont unfortunately, I bought him as a 3 year old and he hasnt really changed since then so I think he will only grey out very slowly.

rabbitsfizz Thu, 04/12/2012 - 04:55

I had a Buckskin born Grey, by a Palomino, o/o a Grey.
She was born with a black mane and tail, typical Buckskin.
She had a white tail by the time she was two and a white mane by four, blue/grey colour body, quite spectacular.
Took her a long time to "grey out" maybe Cream inhibits the greying??