What colour is she?
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I just wanted to say I thought she looked fit and lovely!
...and *THIS* is an *AWESOME* photo!
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[quote="accphotography"]Bay or wild bay with rabicano and splash. Sabino is always possible. I don't see frame.[/quote]
I thought that because she has a mustache it would point to frame. But I am guessing its not a given?
Heidi - Thanks, I think that photo suits her well. :ymblushing:
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Not always a given! Tested negative for frame:
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And she is a nice horse! Bay/Wild Bay with Rabicano, sabino, and splash. Her leg markings remind me of those most seen on the TWH. You know how they creep up the back? I would hazard a guess at Arab x something, lol. The 3rd photo reminds me of Arab x Welsh.
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[quote="TwinCreeksFarm"]Not always a given! Tested negative for frame:
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And she is a nice horse! Bay/Wild Bay with Rabicano, sabino, and splash. Her leg markings remind me of those most seen on the TWH. You know how they creep up the back? I would hazard a guess at Arab x something, lol. The 3rd photo reminds me of Arab x Welsh.[/quote]
Thanks for posting those! A clear frame looking non-frame. Horse colours are as clear as mud :D
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*loves that horse* I cannot wait to see that groomed up and shed out. :love
Not sure about her patterns.
In part, it reminds me of this one, who I suspect to be minimal tobiano. In his case, I am not convinced about what to think about the tail though. Does not look rabicano to me. :oops:
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I agree, that horse is DEFINITELY tobiano. As for the tail Im not sure. If it was tobiano causing it, I would expect it to go all the way through, but if it was rabicano I would expect it to be a little "roanier" but it does look something like this [img]http://www.whitehorseproductions.com/im…] so who knows lol.
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First horse is Sabino....may or may not have a bit of Splash in there, who knows???
I actually think she is quite thin, but I was constantly being nagged by the kids about the weight I wanted on my (ex) broodmares that they had hijacked to ride....I was used to seeing them much fatter, and also, of course, in show condition as opposed to riding fit....one of the reasons I cannot stand and will not tolerate the way some people keep Minis!!!
The second animal I would guess at minimal Frame, but it is only a guess as in both cases, obviously......
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Rabbit, how do some people keep minis?
One thing I've learned about weight is that an animal can be kept at a range within the weight spectrum, very dependent on discipline, and still be healthy. Eventers tend to be kept thinner than dressage horses who are thinner than hunters... but they probably range from 4 to 6 on the condition scale so they're all perfectly normal and healthy. You can get into some pretty heated discussions about what's the right weight (within that healthy normal range) but in the end I don't think it really matters. I do think that some "show" and halter horses are kept unhealthily fat.
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I am very much a proponent of keeping horses thinner rather than heavier. I have just found too much evidence that unless the horse is a pregnant or lactating mare, body condition scores of 4-5 have less health problems. Now I mean that as a good, well-developed musculature with minimal fat layer like a sleek, fit runner, definitely not a skin and bones type. Obesity is the leading health problem in horses today.
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[quote="Monsterpony"]I am very much a proponent of keeping horses thinner rather than heavier. I have just found too much evidence that unless the horse is a pregnant or lactating mare, body condition scores of 4-5 have less health problems. Now I mean that as a good, well-developed musculature with minimal fat layer like a sleek, fit runner, definitely not a skin and bones type. Obesity is the leading health problem in horses today.[/quote]
By the scale used here by MAF, a body score of 5 would be [i]obese[/i]...Would be nice if this sort of thing could be internationally standardised...
Diane
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Most animal systems have either a 5 point or a 9 point scale. Dogs, cats and most livestock are set to the 5 point scale (though occasionally you see 9 point in reference to cattle). Horses are most often measured on a 9 point scale, but 5 point is still used often enough that I should have clarified.
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The biggest problem I see in Minis is people getting paranoid over them carrying a bit of extra weight.....and the problem behind that is, without a doubt, the fact that in a lot of cases when you let them get to what I would consider to be a normal weight, ie let down, not obese but not too slim either, they look like what they are, fat little ponies!!!
My biggest bugbear is that, when I had Arabs, and I am afraid mine were always plump, they looked like plump Arabs, I did not have to starve them in order to make them look like Arabs.
I have just spent the last thirty years breeding Minis that look like Minis whatever condition they are in, if they are obese, and I have one mare that gets that way looking at good grass sideways, she looks like an obese Mini, not a Shetland Pony, and she is the heaviest boned animal I have, too, and really quite plain headed, her sire was, in fact, a Shetland Pony!!!
So people new to Minis are getting all sort of conflicting advice from the people they buy from, most of whom are terrified that, should the clipped out, too early weaned foal they have just sold for roughly three times what it is worth be put out on good grass it will grow into the fat little pony that it really is!!
I am seeing it too much over here, and I have to say it started in the States!!
Who on earth would actually believe that a horse, irrespective of it's size, cannot be fed hay and cannot be turned out on grass?????
But if you know nothing of horses, and a lot of new Mini owners don't, you believe what you are told.
85% of it is hype crossed with smoke and mirrors....why take the long way round when you can take a short cut, make the whole thing mysterious and get more money a lot faster???
And I am sick of it, and I am sick of explaining as gently as I can that the poor, wormy, sickle hocked creature I am proudly told is a Miniature Horse is, in fact, a pure bred Shetland Pony that I could have bought in Reading Market for £50.00!!
Now, what was the question again????? :laugh1
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I thought that's what you might say. Are they kept that way (not by the newbies but by the people who should know better) because they really think they'll get sick with more weight, or is it all part of the quest to have them look like little horses?
MP, where does unhealthy weight begin on the scale? I think I like my horses around a 5 and my ponies about at a 6 for cuteness. :D I think they can still perform well at a 6, right?
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I wouldn't call them "unhealthy" until 7 (8 for preg/lactating), but your comment about 6 being cute tends to be one of the top reasons why people keep there horses a bit overweight. It is not that a 6 is unhealthy so much that a 5 is healthier...does that make sense?
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What is her breed? Nice photos!
I see sabino for sure, rabicano, and splash. Frame could be a possibility depending on her breed.
I'd blame sabino for the under the jaw stuff. Rabicano tends to like to hit the topline first and sprinkle down from there. Sabino goes more from the ground up. Then again, we have speculated that rabicano is just one of the sabinos so who knows! *shrug*
Cory and Peanut are sabino, rabicano and splash and are marked similarly to this mare, by the way.