Last foal of the season
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Re: Last foal of the season
can u see dun? in person his face is very dark, he has leg barring, thick dorsal stripe which runs into the tail, dark patches on his shoulders, rims of his ears are dark also. this is photo is of a day old, he is 3 days old today and his body is very light compared to his face & dun traits, like black to white it is that noticeable.
Re: Last foal of the season
doesn't come from the sires sire, has to come from the dam line, both his dam & grandam which i have here have what i thought was false dun markings, obviously they aren't false markings...?
dam (silver dapple) & grandam (black appy)
Re: Last foal of the season
Rabbit has said and shown that some black dun minis don't show it very well at all. I think I remember her saying she had a black mare she didn't know was dun until she threw an obvious dun. Grullo mini foals are born very different looking than big horses for some reason.
Black Dun, I would say. I
Black Dun, I would say. I never did find out if Bertie was Dun or not, but he was a lot darker than this little boy and I would have laid money he was Dun.....
I did have a mare a few years back who was, to all intents and purposes, faded Black, and she threw a decisive Red Dun to a Black stallion.
Nice foal.
We own a GRP-mare who looks
We own a GRP-mare who looks black --- just when she sheds her coat you can see leg barrings, stripes at her nose and a dorsal stripe - then her head is a touch darker then the rest of the coat.
Her mom is grulla, her dad smoky black.
Last year she had a foal with a chestnut - bay, darker head, shoulder markings, dorsal stripe, cobwebbing on the forehead and slight stripes at the muzzle. The foal now looks like a dark brown - I´m very curios how it looks when she´s throug with shedding her coat.
Here a pic of mom and foal in august 2010
[img=400x300]http://whynot-ponys.de/images_big/whyno…]
I have to bring this old
I have to bring this old thread up again - our Siena yesterday had her second foal and the young man prooved our hypothesis of very dark slate grulla true for mom.
Here are pics of mommy, daddy and their new offspring - WhyNot Mirage ---- better pics will be made in the next few days
Mommy - WhyNot Siena:
Daddy - Pentagon - black tobiano homozygous
WhyNot Mirage - definitely dun
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I could be wrong but I think
I could be wrong but I think the foal is black...
Have a look at this page http://grullablue.com/colors/foalcolors.htm They have some awesome examples of foals coats.
Grullo foals are generally much more beige. While it is common for black foals to have a countershaded dorsal.
What ever the color he's a beauty!
Mom is the very dark mare up
Mom is the very dark mare up over the foal - she has dun-markings. The problem with these is you see them only when the coat turns from winter to summer coat - when the sun shines clear you can see the wild markings on her legs, the shoulder cross, the eelstripe ..... but only for a few weeks. I have one pic from yesterday where you can see her leg-markings
Here the young man:
I believe he´ll get the same colour as his mom when he matures - nearly black.
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problem with these is you see
[quote]problem with these is you see them only when the coat turns from winter to summer coat[/quote]
This is one of the first signs of countershading, which can include leg baring and other primitive type markings. In every case I have ever encountered the dun dorsal is visible year round even on very dark grullos.
This mare
http://www.accphotography.com/gallery/photos/lacy/Lacy_06_20_09/IMG_4896.jpg.html Has a very defined dorsal for part of the year and also has shoulder bars and leg bars. She tested negative for dun with UC Davis.
If you scroll down on this page to "Grullo Adult Shades" there is a very good example of an extremely dark grullo. Even in the poorly angled photo you can still see a very dark dorsal stripe.
http://www.duncentralstation.com/Grulla.html
There are always exceptions in horses and I would love to be wrong but in my opinion your mares doesn't have dun.
Re: Last foal of the season
I *think* black, but not postive as the picture is shadowy.