MOST Unusual! Minimal Tobiano
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I asked if there was the
I asked if there was the possibility of them getting together or even sharing a fence. This was her reply:
[quote]The mare has been on Buc's pasture since she had her foal in 2010 and Buc's pasture and Little's pasture are divided by the driveway plus 15 feet.
We plan to DNA the baby to be certain.
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Well, I went through all this
Well, I went through all this last year with my Appy foal- I tested everyone who even looked at me twice, and since we are talking £40.00 a test it was costing me a small fortune- only to have the test come back with Carlos, the thought to be sire, as the actual sire. So now, when my bank book has recovered, I have to have Carlos tested for Lp!!
TheSwingHorse wrote:Ok, do we
[quote=TheSwingHorse]Ok, do we know yet? I'm like... losing sleep over this ish! hahaha[/quote]
They have sent in hair to PQ the foal. In my experience, that may take 6-8 weeks. Rest assured, I will update as soon as I know.
In order for the obviously Pinto stallion to be the sire, he would have had to jump TWO fences, done the deed while the other stallion was in the pasture, jumped the two fences to get back to his own pasture, all this with no sign of trauma. Either that or someone else playing a cruel trick on the owners while they were absent.
If it were me, I would have done the Tobi test on mare and stallion with Animal Genetics first. Much faster than waiting for the PQ.
Oh dear. I agree with you
I agree with you there Song, I'd have just done the tobi test.
Honestly I don't see a downside to any of the possible results we can get from this. We either:
[b]A)[/b] Have an example of how extremely minimal Tobiano can be, by being completely solid! Just need to find out who has it.
[b]B)[/b] Have proof that you can't always be sure of the parents without a gene test.
or [b]C)[/b] If there wasn't an accidental turn out in the wrong field we have the greatest Mission Impossible/Houdini mini stallion ever recorded. (Which would be pretty awesome if you ask me.)
With these options we can't lose.
And hang in there Swing. I'll be joining you on the sidelines for the long wait.
could the stallion/mare be
could the stallion/mare be chimeric and not display any visual appearance of it? I'm not entirely sure how "chimerism" works in horses (if it only shows up as brindle/obvious visible colour mutations) though. I mean if that would be possible pedigree wise, I havn't looked at them yet.
Well, in order for DC to have
Well, in order for DC to have been the sire of my foal he would have had to have sent the mare an e-mail- he was in a stall all the time!
OTOH I had two foals born one year when the girl I hired to look after them while I was at a show thought it would be funny to let that stallion out with them- one mare was not mine and went home as "guaranteed not in foal" and the other one was a two year old who foaled, on her own, in the gelding field.
By sheer luck, both were OK.
So this is a real possibility...
Billygoatsgruff wrote:could
[quote=Billygoatsgruff]could the stallion/mare be chimeric and not display any visual appearance of it? I'm not entirely sure how "chimerism" works in horses (if it only shows up as brindle/obvious visible colour mutations) though. I mean if that would be possible pedigree wise, I havn't looked at them yet.[/quote]
From what we've seen chimerism doesn't appear to affect white pattern formation. This is a brindle tobiano who is likely chimeric with his all over brindle appearance and different shades of color. http://www.equine.com/horses-for-sale/h…
Dunbar's Gold also has normal markings. http://www.dunbarsgold.com/aurie3.jpg
And I am way too trigger twitchy with this thread when it pops up! It's like waiting for a results show but with horse color genetics. :rofl
We need to figure out a contact tree for you Swing!
Here is my FB. xD
Here is my FB. xD
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=…
Sorry to anyone I stirred thinking this had been updated. xD
Actually, I don't think that
Actually, I don't think that is Tobiano. It just doesn't look quite right. I'm interested to hear what others have to say but I think it may be Splash. Splash would definitely be possible but the lack of face white is odd.
A new mutation is also possible. It does happen occasionally.