What color foal?
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Ok more pics, this time of Harley outside. He was this color during the summer too.
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I just went and looked at photos and now I don't know anything! LOL
He does look like what some others have posted as grullo - red young and what is said to be "Silver" grullo (no Z, just a phenotype) - that turn silvery later on.
Post a pic of his tail and if gray has started, we'll see it there. The bottom hairs loose the color first. So it will almost look like it's been dipped in bleach. It won't be strands like frosting. You may not see gray until he's 4 or so, but you will see it in the tail before that.
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There's only one pic of his tail and it's lifted, but I see the faded ends. That plus the extraordinary color in the baby pics, the red hair turning dark, that all makes me think grey. I do not see the goggles though.
But I was thinking about also, because Jazzy came up, and remembered Gordon Walter's friesian colt. He was black at birth and is black. And not grey. Definitley a one-off? Is it all Friesians? So if that is the case, things may vary from breed to breed on the same gene?
And then the Fjords....what are the genetics of their grey duns? White duns? Is that phenotype not genotype? Does the dun eventually fade to total white/grey? Very interesting....
Sorry, sort of veering off-topic here.
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No, some blacks are just born black. I've heard and seen pictures from Arabian breeders who specialize in black. Sometimes their foals are born truly black. I think it's something you might see in successive generations of black breeding, but it's not generally the norm in random black foals.
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Fjord genetics are simple; they only have extension, agouti, cream and dun.
Grå/grey= grulla (or smokey grulla)
Brunblakk/brown= bay dun
Rodblakk/red= red dun
Ulsblakk/white= dunskin (buckskin dun)
Gul/yellow= dunalino (palomino dun)
Kvit= cremello/perlino/smokey cream dun (these are unregisterable)
And no, their color doesn't fade (unless they are crossed with an appaloosa, but that was due to varnishing :D)
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Most fjords are homozygous for dun, but I have heard that, with the release of the dun gene test, that there are some fjords testing as heterozygous. I haven't ever seen a non-dun fjord, but it is possible. I also haven't heard of any appreciable difference between homozygous and heterozygous.
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[quote="Monsterpony"]Most fjords are homozygous for dun, but I have heard that, with the release of the dun gene test, that there are some fjords testing as heterozygous. I haven't ever seen a non-dun fjord, but it is possible. I also haven't heard of any appreciable difference between homozygous and heterozygous.[/quote]
That is odd. About the possibilty of a non-dun Fjord out of 2 hetero duns. It's like a red base. But then, if only a few in thousands are hetero? "Some" could mean 2 of 10 or 2 of a thousand?
They just look "bright" dun. Is it just me?
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It's like the Exmoor ponies, they appear to be all bay + pangare, the entire breed, but if you go behind the scenes, every year I saw at least one black foal born. But they're denied registration, most people never see them and the breed is so rare anyway, you would never know.
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Ok FINALLY have new pics as a yearling!!!!!!! Please forgive me....I didn't realize he was peeing until after I took the pic...oops :rofl That is what happens when you have to get up at 4am....
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I say sooty bay dun. What do you guys think?