White Oldenburg
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Re: White Oldenburg
Tiffany is Arab if I remember right. Isabelle is Oldenburg though I know, but I don't know if she's got TB or not.
No matter. We just figured out the pedigree of this kid:
By Florencio:
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/florenc…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Out of a Relevant mare:
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/relevan…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Out of a Cordeur mare, but I can't find a photo of him. I found his sire and dam sire though:
http://www.sporthorse-data.com/horse/11…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.sporthorse-data.com/horse/55…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: White Oldenburg
[quote="accphotography"]I was actually thinking dominant white.
Oh... note that spot on Relevant's hip... it's really there.[/quote]
i do not see a spot. I have been through picture after picture of him, and I just don't see one.
eta, just watched a [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWbLg5Gv…] of him and still don't see one...
edit again
is this it?
[img]http://i31.tinypic.com/el6tjn.jpg[/img]
Re: White Oldenburg
Yup, that's it.
Re: White Oldenburg
I personally think it's dominant white based on the phenotype of the foal's dam... but the lines between dominant white and sabino are truly a bit blurry these days.
I did finally see Cordeur... dark brown (nearly black) with 4 even socks and zero face white. He has more white than I typically see on such a dark horse (especially in WBs), and especially odd given no face white.
Re: White Oldenburg
This
[quote="rabbitsfizz"]I honestly think "dominant white" is Sabino, I just think they got a little carried away with the title![/quote]
reminds me of this
[quote]The patterns are merely phenotypically similar and calling them overo is a total nonsense.[/quote]
They are genetically different for MANY reasons, and just happen to OCCASIONALLY be phenotypically similar and now everyone just wants to call them the same thing when they are NOT.
Re: White Oldenburg
[quote="rabbitsfizz"]I was not aware that DW caused dead foals in H/Z...sorry, I'm more than a bit behind on this but how can it be absolutely certain that it is not Sabino when Sabino is not identified???[/quote]Because they have made up definitions for Sabino.
Sabino
Incomplete dominant
No homozygous lethal
Dominant White
Simple Dominant
Homozygous embryonic lethal
Re: White Oldenburg
[quote="accphotography"]Because they set the rules for what is and is not sabino. Sabino is an incomplete dominant, dominant white is a simple dominant. That is how the researchers distinguish between the two.[/quote]
Okay, now that is something I have not heard to date. Thanks for that.
Diane
Re: White Oldenburg
[quote="Monsterpony"]I am definitely with ACC on this one. They are two completely separate genes that act differently genetically. Sabino and frame can both cause belly spots, but that does not make them the same. Dominant white and sabino ARE different.[/quote]
Oooh, MP, when I read this post by you, you had showing on the ticker: 2 months, 2 weeks and 2 days before you arrive here. Sppppooooookkkky! :laugh1
Diane
Re: White Oldenburg
[quote="RiddleMeThis"][quote="rabbitsfizz"]I was not aware that DW caused dead foals in H/Z...sorry, I'm more than a bit behind on this but how can it be absolutely certain that it is not Sabino when Sabino is not identified???[/quote]Because they have made up definitions for Sabino.
Sabino
Incomplete dominant
No homozygous lethal
Dominant White
Simple Dominant
Homozygous embryonic lethal[/quote]
No I had not heard this either, although I am the first to admit I seem to miss a lot these days...
When did this happen??
Re: White Oldenburg
Aren't Sara's in the Oldenburg registry, Tiffany and Isabelle?