Calico tobiano
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Re: Calico tobiano
It's the new book, out April 2009.
The chapter starts with "A very few buckskin and palomino tobiano horses have colored areas that consist of irregular patches of red or dark tan as well as the expected yellow.... These are called buckskin calico tobiano or palomino calico tobiano, depending on which background color is present...."
Re: Calico tobiano
Calico, like this? With 'mis-marks' from the cream gene?
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Re: Calico tobiano
That occurred to me, but the Choctaw implied it would breed true (well it seemed that way since they said they were trying to continue the horses) and I didn't think one patch (which is commonly all it is) would qualify a horse as calico. This is another time I would point the finger at Sponenberg for comign up with another crazy new term, except apparently he didn't come up with this one either. :laugh1
I would suspect chimeric or possible somatic.
Re: Calico tobiano
I didn't mean the horse you posted. I just meant the majority of horses I have seen with these odd patches only had one of them, and I didn't think that would warrant calling the effect a calico (as to me calicos have lots of spots). If I had been naming it I would have been more inclined to name the spot as opposed to the overall effect. Like "Bend Or spot" implies only one spot, but you could say "multiple Bend Or spots" to qualify that the horse has more than one. I wouldn't say (for example) that horse is a "faux appaloosa" or something just because it has multiple Bend Or spots.
Sorry, maybe that's a soapbox for me. :lol:
Re: Calico tobiano
These are the same patches that can occur on solid horses, correct? I can't see any reason why it would be linked with tobiano.
We've seen plenty of horses with odd mismarks and in the absence of an explanation they get lots of colorful names, I think. A Welsh breeder sent me this photo of one of her mares (I have permission to post it and have posted it before) with a large mismark/sooty patch/?? Her name is Hew Moon Shine.
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I realize this is different since this mare is not a cream dilute, but does show an obvious mismark. Could it be something like a birthmark?
Re: Calico tobiano
What interesting photos! Heidi, I'd say that's exactly what he's writing about; and Sara, that is one interesting marking on that pony!
acc, you mention that Dr. Sponenberg apparently didn't come up with the term...but as he's related to almost every online reference, perhaps he did (?).
Re: Calico tobiano
No, I can see what you are getting at, but the horse shown is something else, and I am OK with "calico", it's a nice word!!!
I do think you are right about the chimeric effect, but maybe not only that going on??
I doubt very much that this would breed true, after all no other pattern on record does, why would this one be the exception??
Re: Calico tobiano
I Googled with no luck whatsoever except for a Choctaw site that didn't tell me what it is. I have no idea. It's the first time I've ever heard the term.