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Zonkeys!

Sara Tue, 07/07/2009 - 22:30

Zonkey! I'm going to use that as my newest fake swear word! My last one was pluot.

TheRedHayflinger Wed, 07/08/2009 - 09:00

what makes you think zebras are dun? Just being curious...not seen many pics of zebra hybrids honestly....but the dun from these two could have come from the donkey parent.

Zebras...the ultimate dun! haha

I've only seen a few pics of zonkeys before...they look neat though. I like how there is faint striping on their chests/necks...neat!

lipigirl Wed, 07/08/2009 - 09:18

I don't think zebras are Dun based.. :laugh1

What are the temprements like on these two out of interest?

accphotography Wed, 07/08/2009 - 10:42

Just observation. Watching what the pattern does when it's outcrossed to solids. Watching what it does when it's crossed with duns. Watching the places it chooses to add stripes and chooses to leave alone. Noticing the number of duns who have zebra like stripes (and I don't just mean leg bars). The look of the zebras themselves. I just really think it's a form of dun... extreme dun.

hoofpick Thu, 07/09/2009 - 18:18

Would love some hair to look at!! And Zebra hair too??

CMhorses Thu, 07/09/2009 - 18:32

Thats the first time I've ever seen a bay zonkey. Those are surprisingly minimal on the striping, very odd...most zonkeys look like this.
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c…]

On a side note, I can agree with zebras being a form of extreme dun. They DO have a dorsal stripe.
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What things have you noticed ACC? I'm curious

Another thought...what would happen if you bred one of those 'diluted' zebras to a horse or donkey...would it have golden stripes or regular black ones?

CheyAut Thu, 07/09/2009 - 20:25

Hoofpick I can send you some hair from one of the zonkies in the future. Can't do anything about zebra hair, sorry ;)

CheyAut Thu, 07/09/2009 - 20:35

CMHorses, yes, most do have more striping. Pitty these two don't! I did find some others that have the minimal contrast body striping like these two do. And read that the type of zebra used influences the amount of leg striping.

Some others without major body striping:
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http://image05.webshots.com/5/0/95/98/1…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/NAN7…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.petitfoursonline.com/images/…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://image59.webshots.com/159/0/91/91…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I wonder if this on will shed out with more stripes?
http://image06.webshots.com/6/4/98/46/7…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This one's a zorse, but neat :)
http://www.petitfoursonline.com/images/…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

CMhorses Thu, 07/09/2009 - 20:59

Oh I forgot to mention but the striping color on zorses supports the dun theory imo.
CheyAut some of the webshot.com photos say they are forbidden for me to see.
I can see the type of zebra influencing the striping, a grevys would have many more and much smaller width stripes than a grant or chapmans cross.

TheSwingHorse Fri, 07/10/2009 - 01:51

I wanna breed a zebra to one of my big ol' hitch percherons. xD

Those zonkeys are cute. :) I am also curious about the zebras being extreme duns... hmm.

Jordie0587 Fri, 07/10/2009 - 13:47

Hmmmm

now THAT could be interesting Swing.

I'd be worried though. Most Zebras are kinda nuts even if you work with them religiously. I know I'll have to wait until monday to send any hairs off if they want me to... I can't catch psycho Zulu.

Imagine a GIANT crazy. :lol:

CMhorses Fri, 07/10/2009 - 13:58

If trained properly zebras and zebra hybrids are supposed to be similar to a donkey or a mule. The main difference is they are quicker to react with flight of fight instincts and can be more aggressive. I've heard of people showing zebras in dressage and especially halter. I know eventually I want to buy a zebra that's correct of course and see what all I can do with it.

TheSwingHorse Fri, 07/10/2009 - 20:10

Yea... I probably wouldn't drive it. xD Just show it in halter or something. lol

Actually, probably wouldn't do it period. Would just be interesting to see. xD

accphotography Sun, 07/12/2009 - 02:13

Here's another of the reasons:

[img]http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w65/…]

I know some of the brindles that are not chimeric (and have passed on their brindling) have been duns, if not all of them too. So that intrigues me. Also several of the ones that are proven chimeric are also dun, but I guess that's *probably* a coincidence.

RiddleMeThis Sun, 07/12/2009 - 03:27

[quote="accphotography"]I know some of the brindles that are not chimeric (and have passed on their brindling) have been duns, if not all of them too. [/quote]
Actually most ARENT dun. The only one on the table that is part of the reproducing family that is dun is a second generation brindle.

http://www.brindlehorses.com/brinslides…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

accphotography Sun, 07/12/2009 - 04:19

Are you sure about that? I found several just browsing tonight.

RiddleMeThis Sun, 07/12/2009 - 04:26

[quote="accphotography"]Are you sure about that? I found several just browsing tonight.[/quote]
As sure as I can be. Al lof the "Brenda" QHs that have passed on there stripes are listed under "non-dun" except one.

hoofpick Sun, 07/12/2009 - 04:56

Just thinking of the above statements about dun and chimeras (?) ... That just complicate things ...oh dear... more hair needed and definatley DNA testing needed more importantly!!... Argh!!!...