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What do they call it?

:shock: When explaining color to people new to the field, one often runs into resistance and misunderstanding that is rooted in the registries themselves. :cry: From that rises the question: Lets take the example of a smoky black. What do registries call it? Can the horse be registered on true content in all registries? (if the owner knows what they've got, or course) How about if we make it a smoky cream? :?

critterkeeper Thu, 07/16/2009 - 11:01

Most registries that I know of reg. smokey black as black. I am not sure about smokey cream other than AQHA doesn't have it (or smokey black) listed as an approved color. APHA has finally accepted a smokey cream filly based on DNA testing from UC Davis (she was just reg. last year). I guess that means there is hope for other registries...lol :laugh1

What I find the hardest to overcome is the decades of misinformation that individuals are convinced is fact. You can tell them until you are blue in the face that just because that buckskin has a dorsal doesn't make it a dun... especially if dad was a black and mom a palomino... lol.

Daylene Alford Thu, 07/16/2009 - 11:40

With the AQHA you can register the horse as black and then have it noted on the papers that the horse carries cream.

Streak is done like that. He is registered as grullo and then it is noted that he "carries and expresses roan".

vneerland Thu, 07/16/2009 - 12:33

So you cannot register a smoky black as such with AQHA? :(
And your double cream on black will be called? (perlino?)

RiddleMeThis Thu, 07/16/2009 - 21:08

At the last AQHA big "meeting" thing, they were proposing adding "Smoky Cream" and "Smoky Black" to the list of colors on the registration papers.

I haven't heard anything about it since then.

vneerland Thu, 07/16/2009 - 21:30

Hmmmmm.
Not to pile work on anyone, but maybe it would be a good idea to have a section on the main site here, were registry misnomers and breed specific color names are listed? :?
Like the chocolates we once discussed, and cremello for anything double dillute?

accphotography Thu, 07/16/2009 - 21:30

I'm about 90% sure smokey black is approved. I feel fairly certain smokey cream is as well, but not as sure as I am about smokey black.