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Tobiano Only?

Found some pics I took several years ago of a mini and a mini/shetland at the place I used to keep my horses at. Are they tobiano only? or Tobi + something else? And if Tobi + something else...what on their patterning makes you want to think that? the Shetland/Mini (sire was a mini, dam was a mini/shetland cross). She was going grey. [img]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/stauffie/Confo/Hopechow.jpg[/img] [img]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/stauffie/Confo/MissHope.jpg[/img] [img]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/stauffie/Confo/HopeEat.jpg[/img] [img]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/stauffie/Confo/HopeBMeat2.jpg[/img] [img]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/stauffie/Confo/WildChild.jpg[/img] and a baby pic of her--fresh from the mare(no comments about mare please. We purchased her as a 14 year old that might be bred....she was severely emaciated and in May still had full winter coat on. We figured she was wormy. She popped a foal out and when the vet came out he aged the mare as to being in her mid to late 30s! She looked super good after a few more months of feed and care and lived for several more years): [img]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/stauffie/Confo/41046624EXpKXZ_ph…] and...Grullo mini [img]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/stauffie/Confo/teddytrot.jpg[/img] [img]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/stauffie/Confo/Teddy.jpg[/img] I'm sure I have more pics of him somewhere if you want another angle or something.

lipigirl Thu, 07/30/2009 - 15:50

I agree with splash to as the leg white it so high...but then there are no blue eyes - glad you gave that mare a loving home towards the end. ;)

Krickette Thu, 07/30/2009 - 16:21

[quote="lipigirl"]I agree with splash to as the leg white it so high...but then there are no blue eyes - glad you gave that mare a loving home towards the end. ;)[/quote]
it's so weird seeing splash without a big splashy blaze, lol. but that was my first thought too

TheRedHayflinger Thu, 07/30/2009 - 19:51

so splash on both? or just the grullo boy? or the grey filly?

neither of them had a fleck of white hair on their faces/lips/chins/etc(other than the grey as she started turning grey of course..lol)

CheyAut Thu, 07/30/2009 - 21:59

I'm not great with this so very well may be corrected ;)

But for the filly, I think splash since the chest is so one sided.

And for the other guy, I also think splash because of teh white back half (er, more than half) of him.

Looking forward to seeing more educated responses ;)

rabbitsfizz Fri, 07/31/2009 - 10:07

Splash on both, + Tobi.
I would think the mare was Pinto under the Grey??
You get no criticisms from me for a 30+ mare having a healthy foal, only praise!!

TheRedHayflinger Fri, 07/31/2009 - 10:18

I had posted her elsewhere before without her backstory and got a lot of flak until I was able to log back on and explain why she was in poor condition and that we had only had her a few weeks.

While nursing and after weaning...this is what we got her to look like...when her filly was just a few weeks old, the vet also pulled about half of her molars because they were rotting.
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/…]
when we first got her...after shedding her out, we could see all of her ribs...that hair made for a great optical illusion she wasn't as bad as she really was

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/…]
A few months later...3 or 4 months I'd say...while nursing that filly.

and then after weaning a year or two later
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/…]

no pinto or white markings at all on her...we'd bathe her and only see dark skin, no pink skin. The mini stallion that was out running with her was a black pinto, pretty much marked like the filly

Monsterpony Fri, 07/31/2009 - 11:07

Definitely splash, tobi just won the face. On the first, splash took half the chest shield. On the second, splash took the flank.

rabbitsfizz Sat, 08/01/2009 - 05:38

You did a BRILLIANT job with that mare, well done you.
So the pattern came form the sire?
Has the foal greyed out??

TheRedHayflinger Sat, 08/01/2009 - 08:59

I last seen a picture of the grey pinto filly a year or so ago...almost nearly white, but you could faintly see her spots still.