Hm..

yes, "solid coloreds" can be carriers, because they could be registered as "solid." however, they still have frame. there's a mini that i know of that's a good example.
but if it's got frame, it's got lwo. same thing.

Frame and LWO are the same thing, yes. Is your stallion tested though? I can't tell from your post.

He has been tested, but even if he hadn't, he has had at least 2 obviously frame foals.

Can someone tell me what the person was trying to say with this
"because he is frame overo does not mean he will not test nn"
The double negative confuses me.

They seem to be talking about genotype vs phenotype so they're sort of on the right track (it's true that some frame-looking animals will test negative) but if he's been tested it's a moot point.

Well, at least they knew enough to ASK - so many don't. They are just confused (or else went to class with Indian :hammer :BH ) :angel

Speaking of Indian does anyone know how to get in touch with her and let her know where we are?

I've seen her on Heather's forum.

I can get Indian over if she's not already. She's been PMing me on another site.

I think the trick in this case was the wording. They asked if he was tested, you replied "he is a LWO carrier since he is a tobiano/frame/sabino/splash, and frame and LWO are the same thing". That makes it sound as though you were going by his appearance only. It can be really hard (nay, impossible) to tell just visually if frame is present when another pattern (especially tobiano) is present. I'm sure they just wanted to know for *certain* as they may have a positive mare, but really hope your stallion isn't. With the exception of the LOUD, obvious frames with little other pattern to show, it can be virtually impossible to say for certain. Although many of this forum are *incredibly* good "guessers", guessing is not good when it comes to the risk of LWO foals.

*I* know what you meant, I just suspect they didn't.