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GAHA Photos

When you are in a shady arena, but aiming toward the sun, how do I make it work? I'm thinking I just need a better camera... [img]http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/vv309/Hijenks/GAHA%20June%202009/100…]

Heather Sun, 06/07/2009 - 07:17

I had this isues at a arena and there was one side of it that had a building and I went to the other side of the area and faced the wall instead of the sun, it is a PITA.

vneerland Sun, 06/07/2009 - 09:44

:shock: Good grief, that's an arab, I assume? Is the handler a 6 year old child, or is the horse a giant for his breed? :o

Jenks Sun, 06/07/2009 - 10:17

LOL Yes. It was a large 2 year old colt shown by a shorter-than-I man (not unusual)! I wish I'd gotten his name I do know his sire is Marhabbah - I am still sorting through the pics. I must've taken a few thousand.... I had to sort by time so I could remember who was what.

The picture is a bit deceiving - other pics don't make him look quite so big - but he was pretty large for a 2 year old....

Is there a site with no limit for photos? I get an error that i've him my limit (250?) on Photobucket. I can't decide if I should just pay or find another site.

Morgan Sun, 06/07/2009 - 10:36

[quote="Jenks"]LOL Yes. It was a large 2 year old colt shown by a shorter-than-I man (not unusual)! I wish I'd gotten his name I do know his sire is Marhabbah - I am still sorting through the pics. I must've taken a few thousand.... I had to sort by time so I could remember who was what.

The picture is a bit deceiving - other pics don't make him look quite so big - but he was pretty large for a 2 year old....

Is there a site with no limit for photos? I get an error that i've him my limit (250?) on Photobucket. I can't decide if I should just pay or find another site.[/quote]
there's a limit? :? Just make another bucket :lol: I have several because I play a game and don't want my pictures from there mixed up.

TwinCreeksFarm Sun, 06/07/2009 - 10:47

probably the upload limit. I'm pretty sure I have more than 250 on my bucket? :?

Heidi Sun, 06/07/2009 - 11:04

[quote="vneerland"]:shock: Good grief, that's an arab, I assume? Is the handler a 6 year old child, or is the horse a giant for his breed? :o[/quote]

The colt *does* look tall and leggy, doesn't he? [i]I think he's gorgeous...[/i] :HB
BUT...I also think the photo captured him at a "springy" moment of his stride since he looks like he is about 6" ([i]or more[/i]?) off the ground at the height of his trot.

Jenks Sun, 06/07/2009 - 11:12

Yah, that colt was quite springy! When I get them all up, if I've got him coming in the ring? I wish I'd had videoed it to get the audio. You could actually hear the crowd react to him.... There is so rarely a crowd at these shows it was quite exciting. It was like a Marwan fest there....Marwan get and the get of the get of Marwan everywhere..... Gorgeous though!

Jenks Sun, 06/07/2009 - 11:16

The sire of that colt was breathtaking! This handler was very tall. "Greg" as one of this stallions' owners told me was flown in to show him. Nice guy (the owner) - I was asking about his incredible camera and it came up that he owned the stallion.

[img]http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/vv30…]

Heather Sun, 06/07/2009 - 13:58

If that is cheecopee they have done some major upgrades!!! I stayed there during a hurricane LOL

Jenks Sun, 06/07/2009 - 14:16

Heidi - It was at the International Horse Park....where's Chickopee Woods?

Thanks! I must use auto everything or else I'd miss something! So it is all auto on a pretty inexpensive digital...but I need more memory and maybe a new camera I think....There were SO many I had to delete for being a little out of focus due to the light, and ya KNOW those were ones that I loved the poses on or the movement was better than the others, etc..... grr...

I love this one - senior mares - very interesting. More people should start doing halter around here....

[img]http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/vv30…]

Jodi Sun, 06/07/2009 - 14:23

Oh love it.... Beautiful horses! :D
Shooting in any arena (ingoor or out) without lighting is difficult, with any camera. Can be done but difficult. ;)

Heidi Sun, 06/07/2009 - 14:28

My bad, I didn't recognize the GHP, I thought it was Chicopee. Chicopee is up around Gainesville? The Paso group around here holds their shows there. They used to be at Chateau Elan, then they did GA HP and I think they've been at Chicopee the last 2-3yrs.

Heather Sun, 06/07/2009 - 14:29

Yea its gainesville...I showed dogs there for over 10 years on laborday weekend every year and then again in Feb.

Jenks Sun, 06/07/2009 - 14:44

We are so much more public now I wish wish wish I could make more comments!!!

It's amazing how a slight difference in angle can change my opinion on their legs....

PamelaTX Sun, 06/07/2009 - 15:41

[color=#8000BF][b]Great pics!!! LOVE the long tails!![/b][/color]

lipigirl Sun, 06/07/2009 - 15:49

I really do wish they wouldn't stretch them out like that - they look beautiful without them standing like that. They are stunning horses - are the tails real ?

Jenks Sun, 06/07/2009 - 16:02

It does alter their look a little. But it's easier to see them for what they are. They are much less attractive all stretched out. But that is what it's for (I think). To see. The stretching out? I've learned it does not aid at all in the appearance of their hind legs. It does make them look tubier in the body and hollowed out in the back though, which I don't like.

Yes it is illegal to have fake hair! Some needed some extensions! You should have seen the equitation classes. Most had tails so long they interfered with backing up.....Hard to back up when you keep stepping on your tail...

Sara Sun, 06/07/2009 - 19:08

My Ginny would grow a tail like that if I didn't keep trimming it. Her tail just grows like mad and I carefully snip the ends to keep it looking natural yet short enough that she isn't stepping on it (and pulling out big sections!) all the time. I keep it at a length that it just barely touches the ground when she is standing still and relaxed.

Jenks Sun, 06/07/2009 - 20:00

Stop Sara stop!!!! :mrgreen:

Can anyone tell me what exactly is going on when a horse is standing with it's back toes stuck straight down into the dirt? I can't post the pictures, but I noticed one with it's rear toes stuck straight down....

NZ Appaloosas Sun, 06/07/2009 - 21:58

Relaxing?? :laugh1 Some of ours tend to do that when they are sleeping while standing, the standies in particular.

Diane

Heidi Sun, 06/07/2009 - 22:27

[quote="Jenks"]Can anyone tell me what exactly is going on when a horse is standing with it's back toes stuck straight down into the dirt? I can't post the pictures, but I noticed one with it's rear toes stuck straight down....[/quote]
:sad I can't tell you anything good...
[i]Could you PM the photo to me? Or email? If email, I check it every few days, let me know if you're sending an email and I'll check it sooner.[/i]

Unless the horse is standing and relaxing one back leg; weight on one and the other toe-tip resting and pointing into the dirt...then the first thing I think of is DSLD. It has a different name now, ESPA, but it is basically a degenerative suspensory ligament (all ligaments) disorder. This is mostly prevalent in the Peruvian Paso breed, but it has also been observed/documented in some draft/pulling breeds (heavy draft and standardbreds) while it also shows up in some TBs and Arabs, including other breeds, too...though those problems seem to be brought on mostly through an initial injury instead of just manifesting itself spontaneously.
It *is* a genetic disorder, where the horse is unable to repair small tears of their ligaments because the repairs aren't stetchy collagen, but firm cartiledge that can turn calcified and very hard. This puts even more strain on the damaged ligaments, stretching them and over working their stretchy bits and every further injury heals badly and puts even more and more strain on those ligaments...until it finally results in mechanical failure.

My first gaited horse was a Peruvian who had an advanced case of this. She would stand, rocked forward so her weight was mostly over her front legs. Her back pasterns had NO 'spring' to them, her pasterns were level with the ground. It almost seemed like they would flex even more, but the bone structure itself would prevent this from happening. She had a favorite corner of the corral, on a slight incline and she'd stand butt-high where she had dug a shallow groove in the earth so the tips of her back hooves pointed straight down in an effort to align the bones and take some of the strain off of the ligaments.
Other symptoms were she would dog-sit before making the effort to get up on her back feet. She would really swing her head/heck hard in an effort to use her head/neck momentum as a leverage fulcrum to lift her spine and use her back legs as little as possible. She also had "post legs", as her hocks straightened out. I am not sure why the hocks straighten; it could be the disease affecting those ligaments, though I suspect it is mostly an effort by the horse to straighten every joint they can so the bones are taking as much weight as possible off of the ligaments.
It really is a terrible disease. I lost Poquita when one of her damaged ligaments ruptured. It was an awful, awful euth. She did not go easily and I shall never forget it. I wish like hell I'd asked for a captive bolt instead of the injected euth solution.

Jenks Mon, 06/08/2009 - 07:01

[quote="NZ Appaloosas"]Relaxing?? :laugh1 Some of ours tend to do that when they are sleeping while standing, the standies in particular.

Diane[/quote]

Both it's back toes? It's literally standing on it's toes, tips down and heels up off the ground. Definitely not relaxed....

I'll send you the pic Heidi....I didn't notice it doing that while trotting around the ring, but now looking at the pictures, it's posing with it's toes in the dirt which make the whole back legs hard to judge....I don't know how they judged it standing like that.

Heidi Mon, 06/08/2009 - 11:08

I'll check my emails in a bit.
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I found a video last night: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YXTxvTE…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; it is about 5min long, I don't think there is any soundtrack, just some telling comments and photos showing very advanced cases and the common symptoms; post legs, swollen fetlocks and level pasterns. I don't remember if any of the pics showed the toes-down stance or not. I'm sorry, I cannot bring myself to watch it again to see for sure.
Here is the page of links I found:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Here is a list of links using ESPA:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
From that page of links, here is one I participated in: http://www.americanpasofinos.com/forum/…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A pic of Poquita:
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/…]

Jenks Mon, 06/08/2009 - 17:54

I just got home, let me muck stalls, etc and I'll send it. It's on my PC upstairs.

NZ Appaloosas Mon, 06/08/2009 - 18:49

[quote="Jenks"][quote="NZ Appaloosas"]Relaxing?? :laugh1 Some of ours tend to do that when they are sleeping while standing, the standies in particular.

Diane[/quote]

Both it's back toes? It's literally standing on it's toes, tips down and heels up off the ground. Definitely not relaxed....

I'll send you the pic Heidi....I didn't notice it doing that while trotting around the ring, but now looking at the pictures, it's posing with it's toes in the dirt which make the whole back legs hard to judge....I don't know how they judged it standing like that.[/quote]

Woops, no, not both back toes...I made my comment without seeing photos (as I've dial-up at home, and pix + dial-up = frustration). With 2 back toes in that position, I don't know what could be going on. I was thinking more like the photo that Heidi posted. I can't say I've ever seen a horse standing on both back toes.

Diane