Safely deposited

Sounds like she was thrown into the deep end. What fun for her to have!
Deer. How do you examine [i]deer[/i]?

Veeeeerrrrrry carefully! LOL We have farmed deer here, and can buy venison in the supermarket. In fact, there's a deer farm across the road from our farm...still trying to figure out how I can make a grown-up Bambi have spots...

Diane

[quote="NZ Appaloosas"]...still trying to figure out how I can make a grown-up Bambi have spots...
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Clairol hair color and a small, round paintbrush?

[quote="Heidi"][quote="NZ Appaloosas"]...still trying to figure out how I can make a grown-up Bambi have spots...
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Clairol hair color and a small, round paintbrush?[/quote]

:o :lol: For some reason, I envision Diane actually trying this out (and I bet the spots are isolate to the rump - =)) )

As for MP, I bet she is having a ball...enjoying herself to no end and will regale us with hundreds of tales when she gets back. I am looking forward to it... :D

[quote="NZ Appaloosas"]...still trying to figure out how I can make a grown-up Bambi have spots...
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Easy! just get some Fallow Deer
http://www.huntdoublediamond.com/files/…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.amaxmarketing.com/FallowDeer…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Don't think there are fallow deer here...white tail, wapiti and crossing of the two. There is a strain of white deer, somewhere, I could always claim it's a fewspot???? Don't think the guy across the street has any tho', as I know he's doing wapiti crosses. The idea is to coax one of his to decide our pastures are greener. :rofl

Diane

Diane, can't you just buy a few fawns? (weanlings would be best)... :bounce

Are wapiti and ([i]northAmerican[/i]) elk the same thing?

I just did a google search and I think they *are* the same animal. I was unaware they could cross out. Or maybe it is more that I didn't think they [i]would[/i] cross out to a different ungulate species from themselves. Unless his breeding program is one of this-is-all-you-got-to-get-it-on-with or AI?
I'm fairly certain the Beefalo crosses ([i]beef cattle crossed with buffalo/bison[/i]) were AI and they encountered many challenges in trying to maintain pregnancies and fertility in the crosses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beefalo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[quote="critterkeeper"]Diane, can't you just buy a few fawns? (weanlings would be best)... :bounce[/quote]

Cheaper to coax one over the fence! :rofl :rofl :rofl

In all seriousness, we're not set up for holding any size deer...those suckers need 6-foot (or higher) deer netting, which is similar to what we called "hog wire" in Florida.

Diane

[quote="Heidi"]Are wapiti and ([i]northAmerican[/i]) elk the same thing?

I just did a google search and I think they *are* the same animal. I was unaware they could cross out. Or maybe it is more that I didn't think they [i]would[/i] cross out to a different ungulate species from themselves. Unless his breeding program is one of this-is-all-you-got-to-get-it-on-with or AI?
I'm fairly certain the Beefalo crosses ([i]beef cattle crossed with buffalo/bison[/i]) were AI and they encountered many challenges in trying to maintain pregnancies and fertility in the crosses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beefalo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;[/quote]

Well, that may be something MP can answer when she gets a chance to get online...I don't have any real idea. From [url=http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_o… site[/url], it appears that wapitis are a type of red deer, not scientifically recognised as a separate species due to having a morphological similarity to red deer.

Given the fact that the buck is put in a paddock with the does at breeding season (and let me tell you, the hills RING with their roar!), AI might not be necessary as good ole Mother Nature takes away the male's ability to think at all as the testosterone pours thru' the body...could well be that the buck isn't too fussed over the genetic differences. LOL

Diane

[quote="NZ Appaloosas"]Given the fact that the buck is put in a paddock with the does at breeding season (and let me tell you, the hills RING with their roar!), AI might not be necessary as [u]good ole Mother Nature takes away the male's ability to think at all[/u] as the testosterone pours thru' the body...could well be that [u]the buck isn't too fussed over the genetic differences[/u]. LOL[/quote]
Oh, God! Smite me for saying so ... but I think this is probably true for the entire male population on Earth! :lol:

I was wondering who was gonna click to that first! :rofl :rofl

Diane

Finally on the internet! Having a blast and have worked with deer on four different occasions. It is velvetting season right now, so not examing, just sedating/anesthetizing and chopping off antlers. The elk were about 1000lb each and huge, which was very intimidating. Also seen a few other types too. When not working on deer, I've been seeing a lot of various horse cases too.

So, is the vet as good a cook as the hubby? :rofl (When we dropped MP off, vet was cooking a meal for someone.)

Diane

What's the point of removing the antlers? Is it so they don't injure each other?
I know deer antlers can sell for a lot of money around here (a deer farm/petting zoo in Tenn. sold them for like 40+$ depending on what type of deer antler they were).

My dad stops by at a local dear farm before hunting season to get....welll...doe pee LOL (for covering scent). :lol: I want to go with him next time to see them. :)

There's a huge export market here for deer antlers that still have the velvet on them...Asian "medicine" uses the velvet in various remedies. Also, you can purchase a product here called "SportsVel" or something like that, that is supposed to work wonders on joint pain, mobility, etc., that's made from deer velvet.

Diane

HI MP! (hi Diane!) How is spring? Any babies due this year?

Nope, not on our end...hubby underwent yet another kidney treatment just a few days before MP arrived here (4th, I think...I'm starting to lose count) since right before last Christmas. MP did give the ole Beamer B*tch a workout tho! I [i]think[/i] MP had fun...I know Beamer didn't. LOL

Diane

[quote="Heidi"]
I'm fairly certain the Beefalo crosses ([i]beef cattle crossed with buffalo/bison[/i]) were AI and they encountered many challenges in trying to maintain pregnancies and fertility in the crosses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beefalo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;[/quote]

I don't know about the deer/elk crosses, but I do know that beefalo can and do cross breed naturally (just as the deer/elk cross was described)...Either bison cows are pastured with a large bull - or smaller bison bull with large bovine cows -- Mother Nature takes care of the rest. When I was living in Spokane, one of our neighbors bred/raised beefalo (this was nearly 35 yrs ago, so one of the first full-time breeding operations).

When I grew up, Bud Basolo and his Beefalo operation came to Tracy in 1973 just a mile from our home. I used to ride by (horse) often to see the HUGE bulls.
The breeding program had difficulty with cows developing 'hydroamino' problems in the amniotic fluid and aborting the calf and/or killing the cow. They encountered greater success when they switched to breeding domestic cattle bulls to bison cows instead of bison bulls to domestic cows as the bison cows did not develop the hydroamino problems domestic cows did.
http://www.boldventure.info/history.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[i]*sigh* I fondly remember driving with the folks that mile up the road to visit the on-ranch store/freezer to purchase Beefalo burger patties. They were HUGE and they didn't shrink AT ALL. Mmmmmmmm, tasty![/i]

[quote="Heidi"]

[i]*sigh* I fondly remember driving with the folks that mile up the road to visit the on-ranch store/freezer to purchase Beefalo burger patties. They were HUGE and they didn't shrink AT ALL. Mmmmmmmm, tasty![/i][/quote]

They sound tasty ! :D