Unusual spotty miniature

He looks like a silver dapple appy to me. I have one, and she's sort of colored like that too. Cho is a lighter color. She also gets red highlights in winter. She's a varnish roan appaloosa, registered miniature. I don't have any pictures of her where she's clipped, and wet. Her skin has markings on it that don't necessarily show up in her hair coat.

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I personally don't believe this one is Silver dapple, it looks almost Max Sabino roaning to me but it is probably the LP varnishing that is lightening the mane and tail. so not sure about the base colour of his one but am going to guess Bay Varnish Appaloosa.

I also think it's silver black.

Here is a silver black I used to own, he also had the "white" underside

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Silver black + appaloosa pattern

Hey CheyAut, your pony that you had does look a lot like Teddy with his markings.
So (again i apologise for being a bit slow on this) how has Teddy come to be this colour (what makes it appear?) Does he appear to have one of the diluting genes changing a normal coat colour ( Appaloosa?) and what colour would he have been had the diluting gene not been present. Also what colour could his parents have been (or is that not possible to tell). Sorry for the dumb questions, I am finding this all fascinating but have never really had any understanding of the huge variety of colours and how they could be changed until I got Teddy.
Thankyou again for bearing with me.

A silver dapple (or silver black) is a black horse with the silver gene. The silver gene only affects black... it has no demonstrable effect on red based horses (that we know of, anyway). So if your boy didn't have the silver gene, he'd be a black appy.

Your pony also carries appaloosa (the Lp gene), although I'm not real sure what pattern. If I *had* to make a guess, I'd say probably varnish roan, as his pattern greatly resembles my mares pattern (I posted a link above to pics of her. She was born solid, and her pattern progressed to what it is today, and it's continuing to change). He could carry a different pattern, however.

There are albums with lots of photos here that you can look at to see what these genes do.

There are a great many color combinations that could have produced your boy. It's impossible to say what colors his parents were without seeing pictures of them. The only thing I can say for certain, one of his parents carried the silver gene, and one carried the Lp gene (maybe one parent carried both? You'll probably never know if you've never seen them, or have pics).

Because this pony is a British Spotted Pony I think it highly unlikely that he is Silver Black base, I agree with Lipi that he is Sabino roan+ Varnish + Black base and a Blanket Pattern.
To explain, although there are now many Silvers of every kind in this country, he is the wrong height and the wrong Society to be this base colour, Not impossible, and easy enough to prove, but just not likely.

I too see black silver + pangare' + appy pattern.

Does pangare work on black?

Some say it does, some say it doesn't. I personally haven't seen evidence either way. It does seem though silver can mimic it though... maybe.