Pally or Flaxen?

Hi Holly welcome !

IMO your horse is a chesnut dun appaloosa - the flaxen mane could therefore come from the Dun dilution or even the appy - will leave that up to the appy experts to give thier opinion but I don't personally see cream in your horse to produce a palamino.

edited to add - that having had another look the dorsal could be a false one caused by the appy pattern as from your pics I do not see any evidence of Dun on its legs, in any case the mane is then either appy or flaxen diluted I still dont think cream. ;)

Red Duns do not get the blond mane and tail form the Dun, they only get it by having Flaxen as well, so the blonde mane and tail on this horse have come from Flaxen.
Red + Dun + Appy + Flaxen.
I don't think there is Cream but it is easy enough to test for.
Nice horse what breed???

I am waiting on his papers,its a long story, my friend bought him to train to be a trail horse for her son about a month ago. last week her QH mare foaled, an unplanned ,unexpected pregnancy from our hurricane last year,so she now has decided to start training the foal and doesnt have time for him. I wanted a riding size pony again so I picked him up. She said he is registered Appy, however I am not 100% positive, he could be POA, or even appy/QH cross. He is 13.2 hh. She said he is about 3-4 yrs old. He does have striped hooves, sclera, and molting.
Either way is fine, I plan on getting him gelded and training him. He is responding very well to the ground work so far.

I appreciate yalls responses to his coloring. Its difficult for me to see the difference in pally/flaxen on such a light horse.
I dont see dun either, so is the broken dorsal part of the appy gene?

I see flaxen chestnut, no dun. The dorsal stripe appearance through the appy pattern is Lp related and not dun. The way I determine paly from flaxen chestnut is based on the color of the body. Your horse has a more chestnut shade that palomino. Palomino would have more golden/yellow tint to the coat. Research is going on as to what causes flaxen so we don't know yet.

Either flaxen chestnut or palomino. I don't see dun on this horse either. I am leaning to palomino, though not by alot. I'd test him for cream if he were mine.

I agree with flaxen chestnut, no dun. He could be a dark pali, but I don't really see it. We all agree with testing him.

As to his being an Appy or a POA, until you get his papers, there is no way of knowing for sure. I do know of QHs that are purebred but don't even reach 14 hds. (a lot of the bull-dog types are only 14-14.3). My QH gelding was 2 1/2 when I bought him and he was barely 13.2 and now at 15 yrs. he is just over 14.1. It all depends on the bloodlines.

I see as much visible Dun on this horse as I do on Rabbit, who is a proven Dun, and quite frankly I can see nothing at all to be able to state, categorically, that he does not have Dun!!!
The dorsal, yes, it could be "false" and it could just as easily not be false, I am flabbergasted, my gast is flabbered, at such a close minded attitude!
The horse is, I would say, not Cream, certainly I have seen Appy mess with the colour of....what was it, that looked like a Palomino base Appy and it was something truly weird like Smoky Black??? BUT that had been tested.
This horse has not been tested for anything.
So it cannot be said he does not have Dun, merely that you do not consider he has Dun.

Why, Yes, I am crabby, I am very, very tired.....why do you ask :laugh1

I guess testing is in order...:)
Not that it really matters....I will ask about his parents and look to see about getting my hands on his papers.
As soon as I know what he is I will let yall know.
Gee I sure was hoping that just a look would reveal the deep dark secret to his color! :flower

[quote="rabbitsfizz"]I see as much visible Dun on this horse as I do on Rabbit, who is a proven Dun, and quite frankly I can see nothing at all to be able to state, categorically, that he does not have Dun!!!
The dorsal, yes, it could be "false" and it could just as easily not be false, I am flabbergasted, my gast is flabbered, at such a close minded attitude!
The horse is, I would say, not Cream, certainly I have seen Appy mess with the colour of....what was it, that looked like a Palomino base Appy and it was something truly weird like Smoky Black??? BUT that had been tested.
This horse has not been tested for anything.
So it cannot be said he does not have Dun, merely that you do not consider he has Dun.

Why, Yes, I am crabby, I am very, very tired.....why do you ask :laugh1[/quote]

With that arguement, you couldn't say he is dun either. All people are doing is stating their opinion and I don't see why that has you riled up...

I see a dark spot going across his back. If he were dun I'd expect that spot to be clearly darker. But again this is only and opinion... Please don't send out the pitchforks and torches...

I would not dare even guessing an appy base-color since I saw one quite similar to this color and it HAD TESTED BLACK! :rofl :bounce :? :o

I say flaxen, ignored the spine and also saw his legs darker which could hint at dun??? anyway I'd love some hair.......

Flaxen Chestnut- no Dun. Appy blankets often devide down the middle, and white patterns make no way for Dun.

I'm gonna go with the chestnut base, hard to tell on the dun thing, and not going to make a decision at all about flaxen or not...remember, appy genetics can turn mane/tail/eyelashes white when least expected...

Diane

flaxen chestnut :)

I also GUESS (as that's all we can do right now) flaxen chesntut, no dun. But appy sure can mess with colors ;)