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Looks pretty normal to me. The freckled skin is totally normal for a palomino. Sooty tends to darken from the legs up on red-based horses so the darker legs is also common. I put up images of palomino skin in the gallery.
Perineum
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How does sooty work? Is it progressive and should I expect it to continue to work it's way up, or confine itself to lower legs and tail? Is there a test to confirm she is sooty? Her grandsire is described as a sooty palomino, but just looks like a nice uniform dark gold to my inexperienced eye. Thanks.
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There is very little actual data on sooty outside of observations and no test. It does appear to be progressive IMO, but it is not always. If it starts working it's way up it will start going up her hamstring area like so:
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Sooty on a pale palomino. It is getting darker with age (I believe). The lower part of his legs (just above the white) has areas of almost black. He also has many Bend Or spots.
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I see. True enough the hair wouldn't bleach there. Protected by all the wrinkles, lol. I know she is probaby not ever going to get very dark, she just turned 4, so I imagine she is about as dark as she will ever be. I wonder, though, how much of her current base lightness is due to sun or salt bleaching? Hmmm
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You think your mare is pale. This is my pale pally colt :smile:
He has light mottled skin on his gential areas, pink skin on other areas of his body and mottled light grey and pink on his muzzle and around his eyes.
I too questioned what was going on with him as he also carries silver but as it was pointed out to me, silver doens't express on red bases so it was cream related.
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Dunalino mare by Red Dun + Flaxen, o/o Sooty Palomino
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This is a pic of my mini mare Slaney - Palomino suspect Dunalino out of Red Dun mare. I also think she has sooty which is better viewed in her summer coat.
This pic is from a few yrs ago although with the good summer we had this yr she had a slightly darker coat.
Slaney (bred by RF)
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I took some new pictures of Bree to show his pale coat with sooty markings.
He has a ton of Bendor spots.
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The insides of his front legs are almost black.
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His inner hock and stifle areas are nearly as dark. The outside of his hocks are the only places where he has the classic gold palomino color.
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A couple other cute shots.
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[quote="kalendarr"]In Rosa's case, she has no black hair other than the tail. Can smutty be just a darker color, like the deeper red gold on her legs, or is it always black?[/quote]
I agree with ACC that on a palomino that sooty would appear dark or black because one dose of cream does not effect black pigment.
I'm of the opinion, like some others, that sooty has the ability to reactivate black pigment production in red based horses and just causes more black pigment to appear in black and agouti based horses. With this reasoning, sooty would be diluted by dilutes that can effect black pigment. So on dun, silver, double cream and/or pearl/cream pearl there may be the possibility of darker but not black areas of dilution caused by sooty. Single creams would have to have black areas of sooty.
Monsterpony: Bree looks so pretty in the last photo ^_^
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[quote="Threnody"]I'm of the opinion, like some others, that sooty has the ability to reactivate black pigment production in red based horses and just causes more black pigment to appear in black and agouti based horses. With this reasoning, sooty would be diluted by dilutes that can effect black pigment. So on dun, silver, double cream and/or pearl/cream pearl there may be the possibility of darker but not black areas of dilution caused by sooty. Single creams would have to have black areas of sooty.
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Yeh, that's the way I see it too
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My avatar is an Arabian mare I owned for 23 years, I bought her as a yearling, her name was NS Joi Kara, she was a *Hal Gazal granddaughter and had crosses to Raffon and *Raseyn. She was the sweetest thing in the world. She passed about 3 years ago. I got that pic of her when she was looking at my friend's horse. She was my once-in-a-lifetime horse, she was very quiet and gentle, and would come to me every time I called, no matter how far out in the pasture she was.
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Everything but the dark hair in the tail seems 100% normal to me. The tail is likely just a little incomplete penetrence of cream (a spot cream missed so to speak), a Bend Or spot or just some sooty. Gorgeous mare.