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Feedlot horses

Arabica July 19, 2009 February 22, 2011

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Ok these horses are on a feedlot waiting to be rescued, so they aren't anyone's horses persay. My first question is about the first mare Shiloh's Spitnimage. The dark face mask, leg barring and back stripe make her a dun not a buckskin right? The next question is about the Appie gelding Sprocket. Would he be a bay snowflake with a spotted blanket and something else putting the white on the neck and legs? I'm trying to brush up on my understanding of what makes what patterns. Any help would be appreciated. :) http://rebelsequinefeedlotsales.myfastforum.org/about36.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Arabica Sun, 07/19/2009 - 00:58

Never mind, they've changed them already. I hope they found them a home.

rabbitsfizz Sun, 07/19/2009 - 03:28

The prices on these horses drive me nuts....never in hundred years would they be worth that sort of money, I really do think it is all a scam, I would be very wary of buying from this person!!!

RiddleMeThis Sun, 07/19/2009 - 03:30

[quote="rabbitsfizz"]The prices on these horses drive me nuts....never in hundred years would they be worth that sort of money, I really do think it is all a scam, I would be very wary of buying from this person!!![/quote]
What do you mean "that sort of money?" All are well under $1000. Most CANTER horses are in the $2500 range, and they havent even been started except for their race training.

Heidi Sun, 07/19/2009 - 12:28

In regards to the prices for those horses....they are owned by a "kill-buyer" (KB). The KB has purchased, fed and cared for them in anticipation of a truckload shipping to Canada for slaughter and the profit they will make once there.

The prices set on these animals must offset the costs ([i]purchase, feed, housing, care, shipping[/i]) and projected profits ([i]sale @ slaughter[/i]) in order to induce the KB to sell horses individually to prevent them going to certain slaughter from this KB feedlot. The KB is first and foremost, a businessman who makes their living in this manner, not a 'rescue' that can make up differences with donations and volunteers, and therefore cannot operate at a loss. Overall, I am impressed they are offering these horses an opportunity to find a home before The Inevitable End once the animal comes to the KB feedlot.

lipigirl Sun, 07/19/2009 - 14:06

I agree with Heidi - it's sad but at least they are trying to give them a chance. :sad

Jenks Sun, 07/19/2009 - 16:22

I can see them..... Their price per pound at Cavel is (or was last I knew & prior to the US shutdown) around 10-15 cents per pound. Ironically it's sold for about 10x's that later on, but anywho, a 1000 lb horse is worth about 1000-$1500 as meat, then you have to account for shipping it to the slaughterhouse, then any feed, etc and they must come up with a number like that.

So....I don't know how much horsemeat goes for in the UK....but....we don't even eat it here.

Heather Sun, 07/19/2009 - 16:40

I wish, ewwww ..i was informed yesterday that some people we work with are eating their own horse, he went blind and they decided to have a BBQ... :shock:

Dilutes Mon, 07/20/2009 - 10:29

[quote="Heather"]I wish, ewwww ..i was informed yesterday that some people we work with are eating their own horse, he went blind and they decided to have a BBQ... :shock:[/quote]

I assume it was a pet and now it's horsey steaks :shock:
Bleurghhh...

critterkeeper Mon, 07/20/2009 - 10:46

Heather, aren't you in the US? I thought consumption of horse meat inside the US was illegal :-? (although I may be wrong - as I have been known to be :laugh1 )

vneerland Mon, 07/20/2009 - 12:36

[quote="critterkeeper"]Heather, aren't you in the US? [/quote]

:roll: No, she is in North Carolina.

:laugh1 (sorry. Could not resist)
:mrgreen:

Morgan Mon, 07/20/2009 - 13:29

:shock:
[quote="critterkeeper"]Heather, aren't you in the US? I thought consumption of horse meat inside the US was illegal :-? (although I may be wrong - as I have been known to be :laugh1 )[/quote]
probably just the sale for human consumption is illegal. you can eat whatever you want. Like the sale of unpastuerized milk for human consumption is illegal outside of california but you can go out and drink milk straight from your own cow.

critterkeeper Mon, 07/20/2009 - 14:20

Okay, I just looked it up (seems there was another horse butchered over the weekend in Miami-Dade) and it is illegal to butcher and/or sell an equine for human consumption in the United States. I read that to include consuming your own horse as it specifies the and/or sell, so the butchering itself is a crime.

Oh, and in some states it is illegal to put your own horse down without a vet in attendance (to document the necessity of the act). :sad

Edit to add: Okay the laws seem to deal more with the "slaughter" aspect and the "humane" treatment of the animals to be butchered than with the consumption - I think this is nuts... either you can eat horse meat or you can't.