Does he have some roaning going on?

So adorable, I'm nor sure about the roaning but he sure is a pretty color. I love your stallion Banner :love

Dunno, he just looks a lovely creamy bucky to me! You are talking about the appearing star? It's not just a mixture of lighter creamy hairs is it?

I see just buckskin. *shrugs* That being said, I believe Banner is roan so this baby could be.

I also think that Banner has some kind of roaning and its more noticable on his legs.

Here is before a clip
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And after
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I do not think Banner is Roan, or even has roaning, I don't think the foal has/is either, that sort of "frosting" is quite usual in Buckskins.

I have to agree with rf on this one . Don't see anything on banner or jackz that looks like roaning ,just typical bucky colouring and points. Regarding the foals star ,he looks like he has dark hairs on his forehead which have shed to reveal a star ?? Correct me if I am wrong . :smile:

both my stallion and his colt have white facial markings that either have appeared or expanded?? kinda as they've gotten older.

My stallion had NO white what so ever when he came to me as a weanling, but after clipping him for show at 5 years old he had a little tiny star...and as the years have gone by it's gotten bigger. now it's the size one would think of as a normal star marking would be.

His colt was born with a distinct star/stipe/snip which has roaned out till you can't almost recognize what it was. Really noticeable too.

but yeah the colt doesn't appear to have been BORN with that white marking :) but it is a mini...so who knows what's up...I've had a few mini's with the mysterious appearing and disappearing spots... keeps life interesting so we keep them around right?? lol

There are other photos of Banner that clearly show classic roan IMO.

Do one of the parents have to be roan acc?

Genetically, yes. Visually... roan can be pretty darned minimal (but it WILL be there, you just have to look).

FWIW I don't necessarily see roan on the kiddo, but I am convinced Banner is roan.

Which photo do you think shows Roan? Banner can you dig some out?
My Grullo mare hardly shows Roan at all, yet she is a true Roan, and has proven it by breeding. Banner tell me again how he is bred?

I can't recall which picture it was but i actually think it may have been a combination of several that caused me to think it. I know we discussed it and I thought for sure you agreed, but maybe not.

I think there's one where he's facing a fence on the left of the photo and is a semi conformation shot... or maybe he's standing along the fence. All I remember for sure is a fence on the left side of the photo and Banner looking very roan.

Ok here are a shot of pics of Banner clipped and unclipped over the last couple of yrs

A couple days after I got him (as a Yearling)
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First Show
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As a 2yr old Clipped
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Also his bad hair yr after clipping accident lol
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Taken this yr as a 3yr old (not clipped)
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Sire: Seahorse Gold Melody Grand Buckeroo (Little Kings I Stand Grand x AF Gold Gazelle)
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Dam: Birchwood UK Miss Remarkable (La Vista Brilliant Remark x Birchwood UK Silkmoth)
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No Roan in there, possibly, just possibly Sabino roan, from the dam....but I see nothing in any of those pictures to indicate Roan.
The sire is definitely not Roan, and the dam has no actual Roan in either side.

He's so darned pale it's hard to tell. I remember it being more obvious than it appears looking at him now. However, that being said, I DO see a line on his jaw right where the line would be. Has he had many foals?

Jackz the foal posted on this thread was his first and only foal. If you remember Slaney went through some kinda phantom.

He has run with Slaney and Shimmer for this yr so I will be doing blood tests to confirm in January.

Slaney is a Dunalino + sooty?? And Banner has been tested to carry cream, black, red and agouti. I wonder if they could have a smutty buckskin with Slaney having sooty?

Shimmer is homozygous black and has SB1 so "IF" Banner has some sort of Sabino going on could I get a Max white Sabino?? (black based)

A pic of Slaney
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And Shimmer
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That was after a first clip.
This is when she darkens up
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I do see the normal Buckskin frosting on a couple, although he is very creamy.
Does he carry Silver?

I tested him as he looked that way to me but he tested negative.

OK, so normal Buckskin frosting, then....