Can anyone see silver?

Nope I don't see silver at all.

The striping on her hooves is from the white and ermines, not silver.

No, I don't [i]see[/i] Silver, but since there is Cream present, you often do not see the Cream.
This is a proven Silver Buckskin:
[img]http://www.ujenik.com/extasy1big.jpg[/i…]

No I don't see Silver, but from that pic from RF, it's probably worth a test!!

I dont see silver, but I would test to be sure, as her dam def did sire a silver foal :-)

Congrats on your new pony! shes a beautiful girl and Im sure your family will have many years of fun with her!

Has she been Quarter Pony reg yet?

Ok, thanks guys :smile: Will test and get back to you re results but it is looking like no silver from the majority ;-)
Dakotakdq-Yes, she is regd and I have a good feeling that she is going to be a great mate for Sienna :-D

Nice pony!!! I love her!

It's possible she could be silver, and you have the combination of sooty mixed with winter coat working against you. It's been my experience that the silver dilution, like everything else, isn't so cut and dry.

The photo that rabbitsfizz is a picture of Little Kings Double Extasy, and while he may be called a Silver Buckskin in some circles, he is in fact only a Buckskin.

Silver is supposed to dilute black to brown basically, but there are other factors that influence how much dilution. For instance, DNA tested [url=http://www.weelittleminis.com/images/20… Dandy's Little Eye of The Tigger[/url] shows very light point dilution, which to me might also suggest that the points on this horse were week, as seen in wild bays. [url=http://www.distantthunderranch.net/Dist… Heza Buckeroo Charmer[/url] is darker, I think this is the start of his winter coat, and you can make out the sooty patter on him as well.

Then again she could just be [url=http://westwindminiatures.com/angie3.jp… buckskin[/url], but since she comes from a line of silver throwers, I'm glad you're geting her tested.

[quote="JNFerrigno"]The photo that rabbitsfizz is a picture of Little Kings Double Extasy, and while he may be called a Silver Buckskin in some circles, he is in fact only a Buckskin.[/quote]

I thought he was a proven silver buckskin?

[quote="Monsterpony"][quote="JNFerrigno"]The photo that rabbitsfizz is a picture of Little Kings Double Extasy, and while he may be called a Silver Buckskin in some circles, he is in fact only a Buckskin.[/quote]

I thought he was a proven silver buckskin?[/quote]
He is proven Silver Buckskin. He has a copy of silver.

His website and pedigree have Little Kings Double Extasy listed as Buckskin, and not silver buckskin.

And 75% of websites have silver black minis listed as gray.

The fact is he has produced silvers out of non silvers.

Extasy is a[i] proven [/i]SILVER Buckskin, I have a son of his that is Silver Bay out of a non Silver mare.
Extasy has proven, time after time after time, by breeding, that he is a [u]SILVER [/u]Buckskin.
JN, I think you need really to think about your approach to this Forum, you do not just come on here and start throwing that sort of manure around!
So, back to basics.
Cream has been found to inhibit the expression of Silver, as in the case of many, [i]many[/i] "Buckskins" especially those of the Buckeroo lines.
Ergo, this mare could well be Silver Buckskin.

JN one of our many bug bears with minis is that the AMHA refuse to make sure that animals are correctly registered as the right colour and so this sort of thing happens a lot. As RF said for instance Hemlock Brooks Egyptian King was a grey also carrying silver - the mini in my Avatar is also that lines and is a Silver Black pinto carrying white. If you mix silver and grey it excellerates the graying process so in some circumstances horses can even be born white. My little man was pure white by the time he was weaned. Also for instance, with the silver Whites as they are sometime known (silver +grey) they are very 'white' to look at, they seem to miss the greying phase. Hope that helps.

[quote="rabbitsfizz"]Extasy is a[i] proven [/i]SILVER Buckskin, I have a son of his that is Silver Bay out of a non Silver mare.
Extasy has proven, time after time after time, by breeding, that he is a [u]SILVER [/u]Buckskin.
JN, I think you need really to think about your approach to this Forum, you do not just come on here and start throwing that sort of manure around!
So, back to basics.
Cream has been found to inhibit the expression of Silver, as in the case of many, [i]many[/i] "Buckskins" especially those of the Buckeroo lines.
Ergo, this mare could well be Silver Buckskin.[/quote]
Like I said, his pedigree, and his current home website just call him a buckskin.

You have had it explained.
Dean (his owner) knows he is a Silver Buckskin.

[quote="lipigirl"]JN one of our many bug bears with minis is that the AMHA refuse to make sure that animals are correctly registered as the right colour and so this sort of thing happens a lot. As RF said for instance Hemlock Brooks Egyptian King was a grey also carrying silver - the mini in my Avatar is also that lines and is a Silver Black pinto carrying white. If you mix silver and grey it excellerates the graying process so in some circumstances horses can even be born white. My little man was pure white by the time he was weaned. Also for instance, with the silver Whites as they are sometime known (silver +grey) they are very 'white' to look at, they seem to miss the greying phase. Hope that helps.[/quote]
I think I remember hearing something like that with a welsh breeder. The owner thought she had a white foal because it came out that way, turned out to be silver and grey. I admit that stallions photos don't so very well silver examples, at least for me. But I did note in another thread that some times you'll have a dilution bleach out the black points, and other times not at all, always those pain in the rump exception to the norm LOL.

Well, we don't have Silver in Welsh here so we shall have to take your word for it............ ymwhisle

[quote="rabbitsfizz"]Well, we don't have Silver in Welsh here so we shall have to take your word for it............ ymwhisle[/quote]
Actually there are silver welshes, http://www.silverequine.com/welsh.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

in the UK there is no silver in Welsh ponies only abroad meaning that they are not purebred Welsh if they carry the dilution...they may be very high percentage of Welsh blood but not purebred. ;-)

[quote="lipigirl"]in the UK there is no silver in Welsh ponies only abroad meaning that they are not purebred Welsh if they carry the dilution...they may be very high percentage of Welsh blood but not purebred. ;-)[/quote]
Gak, darn those splitting of hairs. It's like the whole Andalusian vs. PRE. Sorry about that guys.

[quote="JNFerrigno"][quote="lipigirl"]in the UK there is no silver in Welsh ponies only abroad meaning that they are not purebred Welsh if they carry the dilution...they may be very high percentage of Welsh blood but not purebred. ;-)[/quote]
Gak, darn those splitting of hairs. It's like the whole Andalusian vs. PRE. Sorry about that guys.[/quote]

I know hair splitting LOL !! We are good at that here !! I am enjoying you on the forum JN welcome !!!

[quote="lipigirl"]I know hair splitting LOL !! We are good at that here !! I am enjoying you on the forum JN welcome !!![/quote]
Suddenly I feel like I'm going to be the guinea pig.

You DO have silver welsh in the UK Fronbach Hello Charlie is as chestnut carrying silver and was bred born raised and registered pure Welsh in the UK. I can pull up the emails for anyone interested.

That's OK RMT I can stand corrected. ;-)

[quote="RiddleMeThis"]You DO have silver welsh in the UK Fronbach Hello Charlie is as chestnut carrying silver and was bred born raised and registered pure Welsh in the UK. I can pull up the emails for anyone interested.[/quote]

Thank you! I was chomping at the bit as I was reading the responses.... Why do the UK members seem to forget Charlie? :booty
Plus there are some of his proginy sporting coats that suspiciously look like silver bays... ymwhisle

[quote="RiddleMeThis"]You DO have silver welsh in the UK Fronbach Hello Charlie is as chestnut carrying silver and was bred born raised and registered pure Welsh in the UK. I can pull up the emails for anyone interested.[/quote]

Charlie is chestnut??? He totally looked silver bay.

Nope you are right, he is silver bay. I believe its a full sibling who is chestnut carrying silver, or a relative thats chestnut carrying silver. I do always remember him as being chestnut, even though in his pictures he is clearly bay. IDK Im losing it sometimes ROFL

ETA: Its his full brother Fronbachs Hello Casanova who is a chestnut carrying silver.

I was about to jump on Charlie too. :D

I wish I could have one like Charlie. Love his type and his color. I was seriously considering importing one, but the $$ were too daunting.

Charlie isn't listed on Forlan Stud... Did he go somewhere?

He passed away. :(