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Top Gun La Silla's Clone

Third Peppermint July 13, 2010 February 22, 2011

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Apparently, they cloned the show gelding and the resulting foal has a blaze and four stockings. LOUD white. The original had a star and three socks. I know it's getting on old news, but I think the variation of white in clones is neat. Here's the clone's pics with a tiny pic of the original: http://www.horsetalk.co.nz/news/2010/07/083.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

lipigirl Wed, 07/14/2010 - 07:51

I find it quite amusing that scientists play God by cloning something but that is not enough to determine how the colour is distributed !! :rofl

Jenks Wed, 07/14/2010 - 08:09

I think it shows that it is not ALL in the genes.... they have to have the genes plus something else. Random or not! There is something else to it.

ThornandThistle Wed, 07/14/2010 - 14:12

when i did research for a paper on cloning i found an article talking about how genetically the horses are the same BUT things like personality and markings are usually different. Because of how they are raised can't be exactly the same, so that is how personality differs. The markings differ because those are determined while in Utero! yes genetically there are white blockers and such but on paints/pinto and appys where the white IS can change while in utero. they run into it with the cats alot.

JNFerrigno Thu, 07/15/2010 - 12:33

That's a lot of money to spend a horse based on the off chance it might preform. Of the other horses they have cloned, have any of them lived up to the original?

Third Peppermint Thu, 07/15/2010 - 14:51

Are any of them old enough to perform in important shows yet? I don't know how old the oldest clone is. I wonder if there is bias or fear from the judges. Might be interesting to make two clones - one where you make it well known that its a clone and the other one you can kind of keep hush hush. Maybe then you can see if there's a difference there. It's surprising how much difference people's perceptions can make. The best would be a double blind study where the trainer/rider and the judge has no idea who's the clone.

TheSwingHorse Thu, 07/15/2010 - 16:42

[quote="JNFerrigno"]That's a lot of money to spend a horse based on the off chance it might preform. Of the other horses they have cloned, have any of them lived up to the original?[/quote]

I think some of them don't even plan on competing with the clones. They will obviously work them, etc. But the sole purpose for most is to breed.

Read "Are you going to run barrels on Clayton?"
http://breedtoclayton.com/faq.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[b]"Q. Are you going to run barrels on Clayton?
A. Not really. We have already started him. He is the smartest horse on my place for his age. What Scamper and I accomplished, I don't think will ever happen again. It was one of those things that comes around once in a lifetime and I'm very thankful for that. Clayton is in a situation where he will always been compared to Scamper and that's unfair. If Clayton were to go out and win a World Championship, there would be people that say Scamper won ten, Clayton only won one. One of the primary reasons we cloned Scamper, is for his DNA/genetics as a stallion and potential as a producer. However, I will be taking him around the barrels at home and having fun with him on the barrels."[/b]

Also, referring to the lack of or more white in the clones, think of identical twins. That is what people are referring to cloning as. "Later born identical twins" While they are identical, they still vary quite a bit from one another. Freckles, moles, hair tint, etc.