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Silver Halflinger?

JNFerrigno March 17, 2011 March 17, 2011

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I thought it was this forum, where some one posted a Halfie cross they owned which was silver, and the silver was through to come from the Halfies side. Can there be silver masked in Halflingers?

Monsterpony Thu, 03/17/2011 - 18:40

Haflingers are known to carry silver in that they have been found to the Multiple Congenital Ocular Anomlies (MCOA) that are linked to and/or caused by the silver mutation. I haven't heard if any of these horses have been officially tested as carrying silver, but it wouldn't surprise me. They come from an area that has other known silver breeds and considering they are all flaxen chestnut, it would hide very easily.

TheRedHayflinger Thu, 03/17/2011 - 21:13

I would love to know what lines could possibly carry if anyone ever figures out anything. I've seen some neat silver haflinger crosses, where the silver had to come from the haffy side (one was an arabian/haffy), but could never get registered names of the haffies. Which would help with their naming practices..lol

Threnody Sun, 03/20/2011 - 03:27

If Friesians can hide flaxen, Halfies can hide sliver!

I would love to see a Halfie who produced a silver cross actually tested for silver. If they have ASD though that would be interesting since the disorder is theorized to have originated in the Americas.

Monsterpony Sun, 03/20/2011 - 12:22

MCOA (formerly ASD) definitely did not originate in the Americas. It is found in all silver horses and is very likely to be caused by the silver mutation. Homozygous MCOA was diagnosed in a purebred silver Icelandic horse which indicates that the disease process is at least >1000 years old given the isolation of the Icelandic pony. It only seems that it may have originated in the Americas because silver strongly selected for here and the disease process was first recognized and researched in the Rocky Mountain Horse.

Threnody Mon, 03/21/2011 - 20:07

Thanks Monsterpony. I always hear conflicting info on silver. Some breeds with silver claim that they do not have problems with ocular anomalies associated with it. Since Icelandics have been found to have the problems and all of these breeds have the same mutation they probably do have the same ocular disorders.

Monsterpony Mon, 03/21/2011 - 23:54

I think the thing is that the incidence of obvious defects is really quite low (a very small percentage of homozygous have visual deficits, heterozygotes have no vision problems). So a lot of breeds are really unaware of the issue. It is not like HyPP or LWO with a high percentage of effected horses. I, personally, actively look for these lesions and have the education and equipment to identify them while the average lay horse owner would have no clue that all their heterozygous horses have little cysts on the back of the iris. It is actually not easy to identify most these lesions and only a small percentage are even able to be seen without special equipment.

Dilutes Sat, 04/02/2011 - 20:55

I remember awhile ago, I saw a haffy cross ? for sale. I questioned the haffy breeding because the other breed (can't remember what it was) wasn't known to carry silver but as he wasn't what I was looking for, it didn't matter. Now I know it is very possible that the young colt did indeed get it from his haffy blood.

Actually I remember I have pics. I'm not sure if I can post them, as the pics were sent to me?

Monsterpony Sat, 04/02/2011 - 21:00

Can you ask them permission? If you don't own the pictures, then you need permission from whoever took and/or owns them to be allowed to post. Or you can put up a link to their website, if that is a possibility.

Dilutes Sat, 04/02/2011 - 21:42

This was a while ago and they didn't breed him. I can't remember his name (the owner that is) but what if I was to allow you to browse my photobucket account? There are only three pics. He's a little silver bay.

Edited to add, I'm going to try and see if I can find the old advert.

Daylene Alford Sun, 04/03/2011 - 07:18

[quote=TheSwingHorse]Does anyone know if agouti has been found in halfies?[/quote]

I would be very suprised if they didn't.

TheRedHayflinger Mon, 04/04/2011 - 08:54

if I had the extra money laying around, I'd test my haffy mare for stuff just for kicks...LOL
Same with the SSH mare (although, she does have some interesting things going on...she'd be the first to get tested for stuff if/when I have the money)