Just liked it!

Hard not to!

SO who's going to explain to me whats going on here? ;)

is frame in you family tree? most often its frame that eliminates leg white on tobinano, is there any white on that back foot?

georgous BTW

if there is white on the foot just white supression IMO, my tobi filly has a near solid leg and while i dont know for sure I dont think i have frame , but I DO have white supression in her mother.

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I would also suspect Frame, so unless you really know for sure, or this is a gelding, I would advise testing.
Tobiano, which suppresses white forward of the shoulder, does not usually suppress it on the legs.
Although It might just have come out of the wash that way, as it were :rofl
After all, these are only theories, they are not anything we are able to test for.
Just because Tobiano does not usually suppress white on legs, it does not mean that the white on the leg cannot be suppressed.....see what I mean?

Yeah I would lay fair money on frame in that one. Gorgeous btw!

And I'll say splash :rofl

Although seeing as he's not a cob and probably paint bred I'll admit frame is just as likely ;)

In all honesty it's probably not splash really but I never know what to think of them as, on the non frame horses. Maybe it's just something that doesn't put any white on but likes to argue with tobiano!!!!!!!

Oh I meant to say too, I have a skewbald shetland filly with a dark leg, not 'splashy' ;) looking like the foal in the OP but just lesser expression of tobiano I'd guess. She's not a really minimal marked tobiano though like most I've seen with a solid leg. Hers is a completely solid leg too, no white dots at the bottom.

The thing is, Frame is known to inhibit leg white like that, but Splash is not.....

[quote="rabbitsfizz"]The thing is, Frame is known to inhibit leg white like that, but Splash is not.....[/quote]

But how do you explain it in breeds without frame? ;)

I don't, it isn't something that is proven, only something that we have noticed seems to happen....and this animal seems to be a pretty good example of it probably not being Frame doing it!! :booty
So that means we have to start looking for other things that inhibit white on the legs, in the absence of Frame.
But, even so, it does not seem to be Splash that does this, as far as I can ascertain, Splash seems to put white all over the legs...although I do have to say that most of my personal experience has been with animals I know had Sabino as well, or most probably did, as they were Welsh or Welsh bred.....

I wonder if it's something like sabino and splash both wanting to put white on the leg (or face) and sometimes they push each other aside so much that every now and then you end up with no white at all! Like a badger face too. Ok I never said it was a good theory!!

You have to remember I have nothing to do with paints, so when I see things like this in person it's usually on non frame breeds, thus I get a skewed way of looking at things probably!! Didn't say it was correct though! :lol:

It's like the mouth liner/moustache thing, that was one I just assumed was splash until I came here and heaps of you called it frame. :? That confused me!!

Anyway I like how most of the time these dark markings are quite clean cut, blunt edges like there was a line they stopped at! Not very frame like?

Although it's most probably not splash, I don't think this particular style of marking is actually frame, even if some frame horses have it :)

Just my thoughts anyway!

Oh and I'll try and find a picture of my skewbald filly. She, in my opinion is a normal tobiano, no white supression and no weird dark where there should be white thing. Just happens to be an example that tobianos can sometimes not have four white legs.
Cheers

Danni

I don't doubt that not all tobianos or splashy looking horses with one dark leg carry frame, I think one of the reasons people are so quick to shout frame is that for a breeding animal testing is vital. Personaly I would test any breeding horses for frame unless there is NONE in the breed, we have seen some very minimal/unusual expressions of the gene and if there is anything that hints frame it is even more important.

we cant see a picture of the whole leg there could be white at the bottom te same as my filly and just be a supression action, while im not 100% that my filly dosent have frame Im fairly certian...someday I will test her however to be sure, and they same sorta thing COULD be going on with this foal, but it does look like more of a frame character.