Do me a favour please..........

The only color you can get from a chestnut X chestnut cross is another chestnut (or, very, very rarely, a pearl). At least one parent must have a cream allele to produce a palomino, which would require one of the parents to at least be a palomino. Two chestnuts cannot produce a palomino.

chestnut x chestnut always produces chestnut , even I know that one lol

Chestnut x chestnut = chestnut

So if the foal isn't chestnut, one of the parents wasn't chestnut!

(well yes, other than that pearl thing!)

Or one of the parents wasn't one of the parents..... :rofl

I was thinking the same thing as RF...either one parent is palomino or one isn't a parent...(both of which happen a lot more often than we'd like to admit)... :bounce

Or the bub is a light flaxen chestnut, has it been tested?

Thanks guys for backing up my arguements. ;)

Genetically, chestnuts are ee and crcr. Homozygous for recessive e and no cream gene.
Genetically, palominos are ee and Crcr. Homozygous for recessive e and one cream gene, making their cream status heterozygous.

eecrcr x eecrcr = eecrcr. [b]There is NO WAY to get an eeCrcr palomino from that cross[/b] as there is no way for the foal to get something neither parent had to give.

The ONLY way to get a palomino, is for one of those ee parents, to be Crcr.

Possible conclusions:
Foal is not palomino.
Sire or Dam is palomino.
Believed Sire or Dam is actually *not* the Sire or Dam and someone had a one-night-stand with a fence-jumper during the supposed eecrcr/eecrcr breeding relationship. [i]...and that now that horse is going to be labeled a Player![/i]

added to above again :)

Or the foal looks palomino (light flaxen chestnut) but is in fact ee crcr

I can see how this thinking starts, though.
Years ago we had a Liver Chestnut (Black Chestnut) Arab stallion, and a mare. part bred, visually the same colour, so registered as Liver.
This was long before colour testing of any kind btw.
Bred together, the pair produced a Palomino foal.
Simples.
The mare was a Smoky Black, not a Liver Chestnut, but, of course, we knew nothing about such a colour, way back then when Stegosauri migrated across the common on their way south for the winter.
So...we believed this proved that ee x ee can = something other than ee.
After all, we had seen the proof with our own eyes.....

(The mare was by our Palomino stallion o/o a Bay)

Got enough ammo? :mrgreen:

A favorite idiom of mine:
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see....

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From Creating Minds:
‘Faced with changing one's mind, or proving that there is no need to do so, most people get busy on the proof.’ -JKG
‘By denying scientific principles, one may maintain any paradox.’ -GG
‘There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance--that principle is contempt prior to investigation.’ -HS

Porbably the greatest explanation for why peeps refuse to change their minds:
‘I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives.’ -LT

Yes thanks. ;) have sent her the link to this so she doesn't think I am making it up !!