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Is this ticking or something more complicated?

My dog, Roger, attracts attention from passersby everywhere he goes. He has unusual spotting that is larger than ticking but not as defined as the Dalmation pattern. Here are some photos of him. He's a mixed-breed. The second photo shows him with his body clipped. Note he is next to our other dog with a ticked coat too. Or maybe neither of them is ticked and this is a different phenomenon?

 

 

 

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Do you know anything about

Do you know anything about his breeding?  I think this is defiantly Ticking and maybe a variation of the Flecking seen in Dalmatians.  

He is very unusual I would love to add him to the ticking photo gallery.  Would you mind if I did so? 

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You are very welcome to add

You are very welcome to add him! We did get a genetic test on him, although it had bizarre results. Let me find it and I'll share the results here.

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Roger's DNA test

These were from a Wisdom Panel "Insights" test.

Great grandparents

  1. American Staffordshire Terrier
  2. American Staffordshire Terrier
  3. Mixed breed
  4. Mixed breed
  5. Mixed breed
  6. Mixed breed
  7. Miniature Scnauzer
  8. Miniature Snauzer

Grandparents

  1. American Staffordshire Terrier
  2. Mixed breed
  3. Mixed breed
  4. Miniature Schnauzer

Parents

  1. American Staffordshire Terrier mix
  2. Miniature Schnauzer mix

Next 5 breed matches that appeared in analysis of Roger's DNA

  1. Tibetan Terrier 16.7%
  2. Curly Coated Retriever 8.64%
  3. Dalmation 6.97%
  4. Labrador Retriever 6.45%
  5. Chesapeake Bay Retriever 4.85%

Listed by relative strength in the analysis with most likely at top of list. Some breeds are not in the database and would not be included in analysis.

 

Test examines 321 markers. There are 190 breeds in the database.

 

Note that Roger is 100 pounds, so the Miniature Schnauzer result just made us giggle, although I am aware that size is a fairly complex inheritance for dogs. But it is sort of funny to think of Roger and Miniature anything in the same family.

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Just for another comparison

Just for another comparison here is a Bluetick  Coon Hound with normal ticking.

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I can believe the Next 5

I can believe the Next 5 breed matches but I don't see American Staffordshire Terrier or Miniature Schnauzer at all lol.  

IMAGE(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/EnglishSetter9_fx_wb.jpg) 

Here is a English Setter from wikipedia.  It's quite similar so I think Flecking is indeed the best bet.

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Annabelle - Roger's ticked companion

Here is a photo of Annabelle body clipped, which shows her spotting better than her full coat does, attached also.

If interested, here is her Wisdom Panel result. I'll just do the parents.

English Cocker Spaniel/Yorkshire Terrier cross

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Great Pyrenees Mix

Next 5 best breed matches

  1. English Toy Spaniel 5.09%
  2. Chinese Crested 4.63%
  3. American Staffordshire Terrier 2.91%
  4. Dachshund 2.63%

Annabelle is also a large dog, so all these tiny dogs just seem absurd, so she must have taken after the Great Pyrenees. Her coat is also very long and very thick.

 

 

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I just love how mixed breeds

I just love how mixed breeds can have a phenotype derived from the unpredictable mix of genes hiding in the ancestry. Very interesting. Do you know if generations of undirected (by humans) mixed breeding eventually results in a high percentage of wild type phenotype in coloring? 

Thanks for your site, by the way. I've steeped myself in horse coat color genetics but had never run across clear info on dogs and cats, although I figured the red/black pigment basis was the same. Loved learning about the various black patterns like the mask, and the white pattern with the base of tail and head being the last reached. I have a third dog like that, but he's got just one black eye patch, which is very charming.

 

 

 

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Whatever he is he is pretty

Whatever he is he is pretty and looks like he has personality plus!

When I ride I feel His pleasure.