Casilda

I agree Diane, however, I have known Kim (SR) for quite a long time now and the strange thing is, this isn't the first or even second time this has happened, am actually starting to wonder if I have wrongly been giving her the benefit of doubt and that there isn't more going on than we know. I do agree that the forum is not the place for this and we should not allow it to continue. However I am now starting to worry that Kim is not the person I thought she was, she brings about a lot of hatred from a lot of corners...no smoke without fire ????!!!

Whether or not Kim is telling the truth really isn't a point, tho'. This forum isn't the place for that sort of discussion, and I've not seen Kim come out with both barrels blazing first. Casilda's only "saving grace" is that she put her "question" in the wrong section so it is in the members only part, but that actually makes me think that the question of colour was merely the vehicle for the attack. And that's the sort of behaviour that needs to be kept off the forum.

Diane

I agree that putting her color question in the general section gives me the feeling it was more intended to be an attack.

Also, regardless of who is wrong, the way she went about it should not be allowed. If she has a problem, take it up with her. We are not here for people to air their issues and I frankly could care less about having our members "outted" for any wrong doing they've ever done unless I am doing business with them myself, in which case a PM would be appreciated. However to just come in guns blazing for no reason... not acceptable. This is just not the place for it, period. Our members don't need to be "protected"... but this stuff doesn't need to be aired.

I agree with all of you...this forum is not the place for this type of behavior. Conflicts in personalities and disagreements over color questions are one thing, but derisive comments about a particular member is another.

The question is what to do...might I suggest contacting her - through a pm - and explaining to her that personal attacks, picking fights or pointing fingers between members will not be tolerated?

if the fight had "developed" the normal way, I'd agree with a quiet word on the sly, but I'm getting a vibe off this chick that she's "immune" to such tactics, and may well open yourself to a course of whinging "defending" what she did.

I have used the 'warn' function on a couple of her posts in that thread...just checked her profile, and I'm even more convinced that she intended to cause trouble...she joined last March, and did one post, and then Feb 20, starts in with a post in direct response to Kim about the colour class at mini Hoys, which apparently Casilda's mare won...

I really think we need more than just talking to her...I'd like to put a muzzle on her, so that we can make sure anything else she writes leaves off these extraneous "comments".

Diane

I tend to agree... but other than giving her a stern warning, I'm not sure how to do it. Possibly we could giver her a stern warning and tell her if she does it again she will receive a temporary ban of increasing increments.

Memers are on moderation when they first join, so obviously they can be put on moderation...we just need to figure out how. LOL But yeah, a warning about temp banning is something she should get, as well.

Diane

Oh I see what you mean. I'm not sure it's possible though, but I'll find out.

It's done. She has full permissions for everything (that a normal registered user would have), but we must approve every post first. I had to create a new group (which I named "Moderated Users") and set the permissions, then add her to it.

None of it is anything that can't be undone, and it can be used for other members as well if it's ever needed. We can remove her from it at any time.

So... if this is not cool with everyone, we'll remove her and delete the group. If it is, problem solved. For now all it means is someone has to check her posts first, which I can't see as a problem.

Should someone PM her and let her know that is what happened? She will get the notice every time she posts that it has to be approved first.

I think it would be a good idea to also write on the post -

'Ladies please take this discussion to your private messages if you wish to continue it, we do not tollerate this type of personal attack on our forum'

Hopefully it will also be a warning to other members then not to do it.

I am also happy to PM both of them if that helps but I will add tha they both need to take a chill pill, even SL had a pop at me on the doggy forum after one of my comments - she is taking EVERYTHING personal. And I have known her personally via emails for 5 yrs !

Agreed????

I think that that sounds like a good idea. It might mean more coming from you Lipi as you have some personal experience with both of them.

Is everyone else agreed please ???

You have my vote.

Don't think it'll be necessary, nor will removing/banning her be necessary...I got this in my inbox last night (tried to post about it, but my browser crashed after a nice long post, and as it was past 11:30 I got fed up and went to bed. :rofl )

[quote]Thats fine , I won't be coming on here anymore , I am sorry to have caused you grief but you really don't know Slaneyrose ....Nobody in Ireland talks to her ..She has been kicked out of three miniature horse societies because of how nasty she is to everyone and I get such nasty abuse from her on a regular basis .[/quote]

As I see it, she had no intention to do anything other than cause trouble, and this reinforces it...the whole thing is about how bad Kim is, and not a sincere word of apology about bringing personal stuff into the forum. She has no idea whether or not Kim got warnings, etc., just immediately to the "it's not my fault, you've been suckered".

I say don't send anything, just ignore her. She's a drama llama, and all she needs is an audience of one to keep the drama going. Just keep her on moderation, cuz I'm sure we've not heard the last of her, unless we ban her, which IMO gives her another bit of ammo.

Diane

And for the record, I just deleted a post she had made after she told me she was leaving the forum...

Diane

Lipi, just tell 'em to put a sock in it, you don't have to run it by us. Keep your good humor, this is nothing, just a spat. I mean, no threats of physical have even been made yet :lol: ! PMs are for personal stuff, IMO, all moderation should be done out in the open so everyone is clear what is going on. I don't know and don't care what their motivations are, just tell 'em to take it private, because they're only making work for us, and we all hate that.

Well, I have put it on the post in question. Casilda should not have used the forum to have a pop at SL......but I am now convinced that yes maybe SL has had everyone sucked including me.....Casilda is right this person has had this happen WAY too many times for there not be be something in it and on cue SL is now being super nice and answering as many OP posts as she can so as not to lose face.....I am sad about this all and a little confused from a purely personal point of view. :sad

Well whatever the cause, it's fine now. As long as they both behave themselves, no big. We've got the muzzle on Casilda just in case (and it doesn't matter who is right or wrong, she still needs to be muzzled until she proves herself trustworthy). If Slaney causes trouble on her own... well that's a whole other matter and I guess we can cross that bridge when we get there.

Exactly...whatever faults Slaneyrose may have, here [b][i]on this forum[/i][/b], she has not caused much, if any, problem...and that's all that counts on this forum, one's behaviour [b]here[/b]. Well, unless of course, we know someone has a history of causing problems with a member on other forums...that we do take into consideration, if we know. :rofl

Diane

[quote="NZ Appaloosas"]Exactly...whatever faults Slaneyrose may have, here [b][i]on this forum[/i][/b], she has not caused much, if any, problem...and that's all that counts on this forum, one's behaviour [b]here[/b]. Well, unless of course, we know someone has a history of causing problems with a member on other forums...that we do take into consideration, if we know. :rofl

Diane[/quote]

Hmmmmmm..... pot and kettle !!!! :lol:

Yes they are my thoughts too, our job is to keep the forum pleasant for all members and personal clashes are to be left outside. :D

Not quite, can't remember who, but there was a discussion back when this board was first started, about someone who went around joining forums to specifically cause problems for someone who is a member here. That's the sort of 'pre-judgement' I'm talking about...

Diane