feeding to improve colour?

Yup. Paprika works. Boss works as well.

if your showing that will test.. just FYI... but IMO lights and lots of blankets work just the same for tricking them into a deep summer coat and suppliments to make a good oil/shine like BOSS or DAC ...I have used gads and gads of paprika and dont see a difference IMO I got my palomino the darkest when he was under lights , lots of blankets and oats and alfalfa and that was it. He was the darkest he had ever been during that time.

We also tried the Black as night stuff and gold as sun ... waste of $$$$ IMO

feed pumpkin.

Diane

pumpkin is a great one to darken pallys, I found the aussie type of boss didnt do too much but Copra does really great for all colours, darkens chestnuts, pallys & blacks the best :)

not sure if you can get it hwere you are thou

I have heard that grain fed palominos will be a more golden shade and others more yellow. No idea how that would work. Mine is quite yellow and I like it but she is just naturally dark. :D
about keeping horses dark, I bought Chase a fly sheet this year so it will be an interesting experiment to see if he still turns brown. :D I actually got it because of the horsefly problem last summer and we shall see if he does not destroy it too easily.....

My theory is the higher the fat content (BOSS, etc), the darker their hair looks because it's oilier. It DOES work to make them darker because the hair is not as dry. I have tried the dark as night also, and.....to tell the truth, I didn't think it worked, but Lacy has not been as dark ever as she was when I was feeding it to her. I think sunblock helps too. Avoiding the bleaching effects of the sun surely would help.

Boss is brilliant stuff and I just love the "by-products" which is loads of golden flowers and a lot of very smug, very happy chaffinches and robins (I'm a sucker for wild bird, they follow me around demanding food with very small menaces!!)
I found the trick was also to show in coat, not clipped, and I actually do this all the time now because I really think it looks nicer.
I will clip a horse I am going to show any time around now, maybe a bit later (the later the better) then put loads of rugs on and a good hood and make sure they have plenty to eat so they are content.
We used to do this with the lead rein pony (they are not allowed to be shown clipped) and clipping in the last week of February allowed us to get her full summer coat through and shiny, ready for the Herts Show which at the time was at the beginning of May (it is now at the end of May!!)
Chestnuts are the worst for this treatment as their coat shows when you trim them up, but a Black or Bay is easy peasy and I think a Palomino would be OK, too, it's a while since I last showed a Palomino...in fact the last time was Pippi (SP Little Precious) and I showed her in full coat...she was very pale (Dunalino, really) but she still shone nicely in the sun!!

yes Ive used boss on my black boy, its good stuff ! I didnt think to use it on a pally , what is copra ?
when you suggest pumkin do you mean the flesh or the seed ?
I have him clipped and well rugged but the extra lights didnt occur to me - sounds logical I must try that

I'm thinking canned? dun know? I know it helps the doggie-woggers with tummy-aches, but had no idea it supposedly helped enrich the coat.

I didnt know it comes in cans :o I'll check out ( :lol: ) the supermarket

You may not have canned pumpkin puree in Ireland, supa...I know I've only found it in the US and on US military bases (the PX). However, the people I've read who have fed pumpkin to their horses here in NZ just cut up some pumpkin and toss them in with the horses to gnaw on as they please. :shock: As to what particular type of pumpkin, I have no idea. but I doubt it's the great big orange jack-o-lantern type we're most familiar with in the US.

Diane

Im wondering what they do with it :? pumkin puree (~~) sounds disgusting :lol: :lol:

We make pumpkin pies out of the pumpkin puree. I guess pumpkin pie is a US thing?

definately a US thing - is that pumkin inside a pastry case , and is that a dessert or a savoury dish ?

Do you have pies at all? Pumpkin pie is a desert dish. It is usually served with whipped cream or ice cream on top.

This is a pic of a pumpkin pie.

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if I can find the puree in the shops Ill make one and try it , Im deffo a whipped cream fan :D

Do yourself a fav and order a pumpkin cheesecae from the cheesecake factory.. yum

OH pumpkin pie is awsome. I prefer to make it with an actual pumpkin and puree it myself though. It's a very sweet pie with cinnamon, nutmeg, and ginger.

I allways have a lot of pumpkin when its in season so I do all sort of things with it, one of my favorites is a soup with a roasted red pepper mouse, very filling winter meal and tons of flavor.

They roast pumpkin here, seems to be part of the normal Sunday roast meal. I can eat it if it has brown sugar on it, but other than that, not a pumpkin fan...can't stand pumpkin pie.

Diane

Here's a site that has instructions for making pumpkin pie from fresh pumpkins. Don't know how good it is I've never tried it.

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I bake it, scoop it out when it is cool, stick it in the blender, I then smoosh it through a sieve by hand (I use cellophane bag of dough scraps for this, same one I tamped the crust with). Also I have made it with whole milk in a pinch, it will work, taste and texture exactly the same, it will just have a crack in it. and cover the crust part way through baking, it will burn.
I just saw that site's instruction for baking the pumpkin, I dont bother with a lid or water, just set it flesh side down in a pan.

Oh, and make real whipped cream, takes 10 minutes in the mixer. dont ruin a good scratch pie with ready whip. :P And then you dont have to sweeten it, pie should be sweet enough.

well I never knew there are so many types of pumkin , never really see any here except perhaps the lantern type but I will look ( does sound VERY sweet)

i LOVE pumpkins! pumpkin pis looks fablous! il definatley have to make it one day!

Copra is made form coconuts. info on website below: :)

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Oh, that reminds me. If you want to make some really good cookies replace half the butter with coconut oil. I only did because I was short on butter for my chocolate cookies but they are deadly. :shock: I have also discovered that adding some handfuls of cacao nibs instead of chocolate chunks gives tons of flavor and a little texture. Really good in peanut butter cookies (although I use unsweetened peanut butter too so I added more sugar).

hmm. who started me talking about baking?! Its a bad hobby, makes me fat.... :lol:

The topic is about feeding, isn't it? :laugh1
Keep going DR 8-) Your recipy's are very inspiring and there is a big storm headed my way: I might as well close the computer down, let work lie and act domestic. :lol:

I have two INCREDIBLE cookie recipes. :mrgreen: I also have a :booty load full of other recipes. :lol: I cook... ALOT.

I do not use butter, I use butter flavor crisco insted for cookies.. they crowd goes wild ..lol..my specialitys are fetticini alfredo (chicken) and cookies and spegetti with pork roast in crock pot..i do a few other things but thing I dont eat but everyone else likes so I can comment onthe quality lol..i also have a cheese cake/ rum sauce that is heaven.

It depends on the type of cookie I am making whether I use butter or butter Crisco.

I do fettucine alfredo, but I doubt it's anything special (it's delicious, but a common recipe). I do a sugar/gluten free pumpkin pie. A sugar/gluten free pumpkin cheesecake that is *to die for* IMO. Several highly unusual soups. A from scratch chicken parmigiana that is just *drool*. Anything Mexican at all. Anything Italian at all for that matter. Chicken fried steak and mashed potatoes (but that's not really a recipe either). Ok I'm hungry now... time to go get some of that soup. :laugh1

[quote="Morgan"]Oh, that reminds me. If you want to make some really good cookies replace half the butter with coconut oil. [/quote]

Not if you're cooking for me! (or someone like me) Coconut and I do not get along--even something as minimal as one small cookie made with coconut, or with coconut oil in it (or even on it), does the nasty on me.

Diane

Im going to stop reading this thread :evil: I gave up smoking a couple of months ago and Ive gained 10 pounds (at least :( ) and all this food IS NOT HELPING :twisted: :twisted: