Black, brown, or bay?

Definitely not black or bay. That is the very definition of seal brown. If she's only testing for agouti he will end up coming back 'Aa', but he's still brown. LOL

I agree with ACC, brown.

Hmmm. I thought brown had a brown muzzle? I've not paid attention to the signs other then muzzle and a degree of light brown tone in the crevice areas. But I thought they had to have a brown muzzle?

He does IMO.

It's visible in these two pics most:

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What ever the colour that is one handsome dude

seal brown :)

The first thing I looked for was a brown muzzle and I do not see one.
That notwithstanding, I think he is Brown, although we think the nose "muff" happens in adults we have no proof it [i]has[/i] to happen, and he looks Brown to me!!

I think he´s smoky black - look at his ears! Has he already produced foals?

I think he's brown. He's got red soft parts?

my black (tested) filly has creamy ears and shes from chestnut x bay mating.

I think that the cream in ears is not a reliable indicator of color.

No foals yet. I had thought smokey as well, but Gail says no creme... Still awaiting results...

I had a look on his pedigree. His dams dad is palomino + grey, I can´t say for his dam, because she seems to have only two foals, one the mentioned stallion one a grey filly with no information about her birth colour.