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Re: "Zimecterin Gold 'THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!!!
Hasn't this topic come up before? Read the label carefully! This is what it is says on the Zimecterin Gold label:
Warning: Not for use in humans. Keep this and all drugs out of reach of children. In horses there have been rare reports of swelling and irritation of the mouth, lips and tongue following administration of ZIMECTERIN Gold. These reactions have been transitory in nature. Do not use in other animal species as severe adverse reactions, including fatalities in dogs, may result.
It's a documented side effect which the user is warned about, so whenever you give this producet to a horse, you are aware this is what may happen. It sounds like a severe allergice reaction, with complications. Yikes.
Re: "Zimecterin Gold 'THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!!!
Yeah, same story, just sort of a play by play. She just sort of wrote it up because of the other horses having the same issues, and I decided I'd share the full details. And I've heard of the mouth swelling and that sort of thing, but the seizures... I wouldn't be prepared for that.
Re: "Zimecterin Gold 'THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!!!
This product is Ivermectin + Praziquantel. Without using Praziquantel you are not, effectively, covering your horse for tapeworms. Here you can buy Praziquantel separately, which is what I do, and I have never had a bad effect from using it. I also use Praziquantel to tapeworm my dogs and, again, no bad side effects.
Rabbit, when (to my everlasting mortification) hospitalised with what turned out to be impaction with tapeworms (a margarine tub full) was fed a full pack of a Moxidectin/Praziquantel wormer by the Vets at the Royal Veterinary College, enough to de -worm a 700 lb horse (Rabbit weighs in at 180 lbs) and he suffered no side effects although the Vet who, after I had shrieked at her hysterically for giving my Mini Moxidectin, [i]then[/i] went and checked on the Internet under Minis/Moxidectin, nearly had a heart attack!! I felt quite sorry for her......
I can only think that it has to be whatever this product uses as a "carrier" paste.
Since this is far from the first instance, I would have thought they would have done something about it by now, even the Moxidectin products now carry a "mini" warning...in the States, not in Europe, though, as nothing has died.....yet.
Re: "Zimecterin Gold 'THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!!!
Praziquantel that is the same ingredient, but are tape worms even really an issue in western WA where I live? I bought it because Doc had slight skin issues that I thought may be caused by thread worm and I had heard that equimax was effective for that, but his problem had cleared up in the mean time.
Re: "Zimecterin Gold 'THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!!!
The above reaction is very rare. I have dewormed with praziquantal many times and never seen the reaction. Praziquantal is the only dewormer that will reliably treat tapeworms, which are now being recognised as a cause of chronic, low-grade colics.
Rodeoratdog- Tapeworms are present in Western Washington. They are spread by pasture mites when the weather is warm.
Re: "Zimecterin Gold 'THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!!!
Currently don't have a horse, but if I did I would NEVER EVER use Zimecterin Gold. Read MULTIPLe upon MULTIPLE of HORRIBLE reactions from many different people on every horse forum I am on.
ETA: And yes, RF is correct. It is currently thought to be something in the carrier paste or coloring that is causing the reaction.
Re: "Zimecterin Gold 'THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!!!
No, there is the same amount of Praziquantel in Equimax, but less Ivermectin in one of them, can't remember which one!
Tapeworms are now endemic in horses everywhere, there is nowhere (well, possibly the arctic circle, not sure :-D ) that does not, now, have tapeworms. Think about it, even without the mites, you buy a horse that has tapeworms, before you worm it for tapeworms how many segments do you think it can shed?
Re: "Zimecterin Gold 'THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!!!
If a horse had a heavy infestation of tape worms would you see evidence of that when in their droppings like when they have roundworms? When we bought Doc he had so many round worms that he pooped worms for 2 days then he coliced. The vet gave us some powder stuff to put in his grain to absorb the toxins from the dying worms, then we had to worm him every 2 weeks for 4 more wormings, I think he had thread worms possibly because he broke out after a couple of the wormings in between his front legs. He also had this golf ball sized abscess on the side of his head, it was gross! but my vet didn't think that was caused by the dieing worms but I wondered. He seems to be all good these days but holy cow, when we bought him we didn't know we were in for all that.
Re: "Zimecterin Gold 'THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!!!
Hardly ever, although if you know what you are looking for you can sometimes find them. The only really sure way of telling is with a blood test.
Or when your horse poops a margarine tub of the flaming things (dead) after having been fed a whole syringe of Equest+ (ARGH....small explosion from owner... :-t :hammer :BH :-t ...... :argue :argue :sign )
Re: "Zimecterin Gold 'THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!!!
It was a horrid experience I have never seen anything like that and have had many horses since I was a kid. Not to good for my husband being that it was his first horse! We are so glad we got him though because he is such a character, we love him dearly and had we not got him when we did he probably would have died with the heavy infestation that he had.
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That's horrible, I have never used it. I stick to just plain Ivermectin, Pyrantel and Oxibendazole. However I did order some Equimax but have been putting of useing it because I heard it was haveing some horrible affects as well. I asked my vet about it but she said she hadn't heard anything about it and that she thought it was safe, but I'm wondering if it the same ingredient in Equimax that is in Zimecterin gold that is so harmful.