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vneerland May 29, 2009 February 22, 2011

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The sire (first pic) is registered as a red dun. :o :laugh1 Dam a red roan. If you believe what's on paper, surely the baby is already a complete miracle. ;) But disregarding the wrong info on dad..... what do you see? Trying to get back-pics, but he is rumored to have countershading on the back. The shoulder marking is visible. There [i]may[/i] be stripes on the leg :? and is that hair on the head shot or... [img]http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e165/marceldodge/forumzaken/vader.jpg…] [img]http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e165/marceldodge/forumzaken/246441346…] [img]http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e165/marceldodge/forumzaken/274401202…] [img]http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e165/marceldodge/forumzaken/veulen.jp…] [img]http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e165/marceldodge/forumzaken/246441346…] [img]http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e165/marceldodge/forumzaken/211411663…]

PamelaTX Sat, 05/30/2009 - 00:25

[color=#8000BF][b]Hmmmm..I've seen some other horses that were bay dun & the "people" claimed them as red dun!?! :o

I'd say the foal is bay (maybe bay roan)

But what foal is the 1st one?? It doesn't match the other foal pics.[/b][/color]

accphotography Sat, 05/30/2009 - 00:30

Well that's true, could be bay roan.

Bay roans are often called red roans too. I don't get it.

The more I think about it, the more I feel baby will fall into the brown (seal for some of you) category. Bays are usually born with the tannish legs whereas browns are normally dark brown or black like this foal.

lipigirl Sat, 05/30/2009 - 05:07

I like the stallion - I know amazing for me !! But yes he doesn't look in the slighest bit chestnut to me even liver !!

also she is right, that is not the same foal in the first bit - it has a star !!! :?

vneerland Sat, 05/30/2009 - 09:09

Good grief! You'd think I had been drinking when I put the head shot up. But it just escaped me. :oops:
[size=80]I went ahead and removed it to avoid further confusion, but for the ones that find the thread later: Pamela and Lipi were right! A head shot of a bay foal in the first pic showed a star. [/size]

As for the bay roan guess. At what age, typically, would one expect a classic roan to show classic roan? :?

critterkeeper Sat, 05/30/2009 - 10:51

First signs of roaning could be as early as birth, but I wouldn't expect it until after foal shed (at the earliest) and more noticiable after the first year shed (with full roaning within a couple of years). Roaning is a faster process than greying, but not by that much... :laugh1

I also like dad and suspect he was registered prior to his getting his full colors (not unusual with the current foal reg. requirements). I personally would prefer for the registries to allow color corrections up until the horse is 5 or 6 years as it would be more advantages for the dilutes and modified colored foals (i.e. roans, creams, silvers, champaigns, duns and greys, etc.). :bounce

lipigirl Sat, 05/30/2009 - 14:48

I can only comment on my friends mini colt foal, but you could see as soon as his coat had dried out that he was a classic black roan.

Daylene Alford Sat, 05/30/2009 - 20:38

It used to be that the AQHA did have bay roan as an option for colors. For the color descriptions anything with a red body was supposed to be registered as red roan. That is why many people will still refer to a bay roan as a red roan especially older folk. I wouldn't be surprised to find that it even goes farther back than the AQHA as far as color discriptions go.

The foal looks dark bay to me and that stallions is defiantly not red dun.