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Where's the white from?
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/tristan+tyme I don't know Arabian lines well and don't recognize a single name in this one. I am wondering if anyone knows where he got all his white. He has fairly high white socks on all four feet plus a funky looking roaned leg on the left hind. He also has multiple white belly spots and is roaned all over. All the relatives that had pictures on allbreedpedigree have moderate to no white that I can tell.
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There is a lot of high white

There is a lot of high white in his ancestors...like RAHAS, ABU ZEYD, RIJMA, RABIYAS, RASIMA, RIFNAS...just to name a few. I suspect the genes were there all along, just his predecessors had a supressor holding the white expression back that this fella didn't inherit. Anybody else have any theories?

Edit to add: I didn't type all the caps on the names, just copied and pasted them...no offense anyone.. ymwhisle

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He's mostly old

He's mostly old Crabbet/domestic breeding, which is known for flashy chestnuts. I don't recognize any of the first 2 generations and they don't have photos. But I bet they show it.

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Interesting. I didn't know

Interesting. I didn't know there were lines specifically of flashy Arabs especially since he is old and out of older breeding.

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Yeah, the old Crabbet

Yeah, the old Crabbet breeding - that great grandsire in the back, Serafix? He's doubled on him in the sireline, and he's got a lot of flashy descendents. Rakafix x Shanna, Rakafix being a son of Serafix, and Shanna a granddaughter of Abu Farwa....We actually have Abu Farwa in the historical gallery. They didn't have huge amounts of white themselves, but it's bred down that way. Raffon too, he was a bay base, but 4 white socks and a star. Barich de Washoe is another recognizable name, that was a big spanish stallion, another chestnut with moderate white. Throw all that in the mixing pot, and you'll get flashy red bases pretty easily.

This is a grandson of Serafix, a good example of the same general type of breeding. He is probably as close up as you can get to Serafix in a horse that is still alive. His sire doesn't have a photo, but I can tell you he was a chestnut with a blaze and socks on all feet.

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/index.ph...

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Thank you for the

Thank you for the information! He is one of my school horses and I get asked by everyone what the white is and about white in Arabs. I am just not familiar with Arabians in general and especially the older lines to ever answer very clearly. So when I ran across is papers the other, I thought someone on here would be able to help.

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