What colour?

Foal looks minimal tobi, black I suppose. Is that some sort of roaning in the coat? Very cute!!

Another pic, he looks a bit odd here as he is the middle of a stretch after a snooze.

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I was thinking black minimal tobiano too.

He has quite a few little odd patches of white of his forehead, either side of his tail & either side of his hips.

Pretty sure he's also either classic roan or extensive rabicano.

Is that a roany star I see? Adorable.

def roan - what a nice suprise !

Actually funny you guys mention roan, one of the possible fathers is a smokey black or dark buckskin roan (has been tested for the creme gene).

Well there you go!

Has anyone tested this fellow for LWO...that one near solid leg out of 4 is suspicious to me...esp. in light of no "pedigree"...

[quote="critterkeeper"]Has anyone tested this fellow for LWO...that one near solid leg out of 4 is suspicious to me...esp. in light of no "pedigree"...[/quote]

... I'm gonna say: "No, he hasn't been tested." ymwhisle ;-)

[quote="bonjovifan"]Born in the early hours this morning, below photos < 12hrs old[/quote]

Black roan tobiano. Minis often have low or no white legs with tobiano and no frame.

I am not sure that they do, but there you go.
Something els going on, too...Splash?

Are you not the one that's showed us the mare with only two short anklets who is homozygous tobiano? I've seen a decent number of those too.

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Does roan also suppress white?

Good question. I wouldn't think so... but a friend of mine HAS noticed that there seem to be very few roans with significant sabino (or anything besides determined patterns like frame and tobi). Hmmm... definitely possible. More interesting due to the relation of roan and tobi IMO.

The reason I asked, I think I remember a conversation on the old board about roan suppressing white. Anyone else remember something like that?

[quote="accphotography"]Are you not the one that's showed us the mare with only two short anklets who is homozygous Tobiano? I've seen a decent number of those too.[/quote]
No, not me, although I do have a mare with three and a half!!
I just do not think it has anything to do with Minis, that's all, I think it is coincidence.
I am very wary of this "Oh Minis are a rule unto themselves" myth that is gaining ground fast, and I think we should be, too. Minis are just a mixture of UK Shetlands, AmShets (in some cases) Spotted ponies and Falabellas, with a bit of Welsh and hackney form the AmShets, they are not even a breed, they are a height registry, so they cannot "breed true" or have breed characteristics.
I have seen a couple of possible colour differences, mainly in Silver expression, but a lot of the rest of the so called differences can be put down to the fact that most breeds have a definite rule or idea pertaining to what you mix with what, whereas with Minis all and every colour and pattern is mixed indiscriminately!!
And I still love them dearly :rofl

Well there definitely aren't as many big horses who display classic silver coloring as there are minis. Especially not in the AQHA and APHAs.

As for the tobi, find me a single big horse with only two socks for tobi. It just doesn't happen.

I agree acc, there is definitely some different colour suppression in the shetties compared to big horses, and minis do have some shetland origins *shrugs*

Cute baby, I guess you can test to find out about the tobiano. I also think maybe splash or sabino as well.

Hmm, heaps of roan welshies with flashy splash/sabino markings, no supression of white in welshies at least.

I have a black stallion who is sabino & most likely minimal splash, he has three sox, star & snip & very commonly throws similar markings. No chance at all of tobiano or frame, so I know those markings are perfectly possible on their own.

^ I have a roan Welsh with three stockings and a blaze, today I put pics of her in the general section.

I'm thinking Miles carries a cream gene? He also has blue eyes.

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