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NZ Appaloosas
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Re: Splash in Hackney Horses

Reminds of splash + sabino, with sabino AND splash forgetting the face was there....(altho there seems to be some sort of small white up on the forehead???)

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Re: Splash in Hackney Horses

There's a star and snip, neither big or unusual.

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Re: Splash in Hackney Horses

I've seen splash 'stars' that aren't big...snips too.

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Re: Splash in Hackney Horses

Been going through the gallery images, and there are some historical arabians that are thought to be splash and sabino whos markings look like these hackneys, and they don't have loud facial markings.

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Re: Splash in Hackney Horses

Oh I agree, but have you seen that much leg white on a splash with no more face white than that?

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Re: Splash in Hackney Horses

Not that I recall, but I've never gone digging. Why not tho? I've seen splash horses with a ton of head white and no leg white before.

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Re: Splash in Hackney Horses

Oh I agree, but have you seen that much leg white on a splash with no more face white than that?

i've not seen many at all myself...the only one I can recall is a paint that I posted way back on the forum and a bit earlier in this thread--Slightly Zipped--4 high whites and just a bit of white on his chin....

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Not that I recall, but I've never gone digging. Why not tho? I've seen splash horses with a ton of head white and no leg white before. One of the things that ALWAYS gets us on color, is there are these 'rules' that patterns and colors are supposed to follow. However there is always a handful of horses that are the exception to the rule.

I find it interesting that, without a test for it, researchers have been putting multiple labels on different white patterns based on how the white falls on the horse (yes?) But would it be so hard to believe that we're not looking at dozens of white patterns, and we are just looking at various expressions of a few patterns and their interactions? I don't know of other lab studied animals which have so many different white patterns present, they just have different levels of expressions. Other colors and patterns vary from horse to horse and breed to breed, and yet they have one name. They didn't always have one name, but they do now. So why not these white patterns? I mean you said it yourself that there are some lines of horses where the white doesn't seem to reach higher then a certain point. There's obviously an unknown control there.

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Re: Splash in Hackney Horses

isn't there a TWH stallion that has high leg whites, no face white....but I think he is tobiano....

*finds the link*
http://www.cloud9walkers.com/Gunsmoke.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Splash in Hackney Horses

http://www.aimhighstables.com/wendel.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; something about him says tobiano to me..but I also want to say splash (the face marking veering off to one side I think). No clue what breed this one is though...but I was looking for splash whites with little face white and seen him (and i'm having a heck of a time finding any..lol)

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I would bet $100 that one IS tobi.

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Re: Splash in Hackney Horses

Is that a little white speck on his butt?

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I missed that! It sure is!

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Re: Splash in Hackney Horses

i missed it too...was on my desktop--which has a crappy monitor..but I can see it on my laptop..lol

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Re: Splash in Hackney Horses

Yeh cool, looks minimal tobi!!

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Re: Splash in Hackney Horses

not seeing any other white other than leg white on the TWH though...but I still think he looks tobi

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I don't see they had him tested but halfway scrolled down they announce a foal has been tested homozygous tobi, the foal is near the bottom. ;-)

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Re: Splash in Hackney Horses

oh, just saw this thread, this is really weird :shock: Those belly spots and leg white look absolutely typical of splash but every time I've seen that much body white it's accompanied by a bald head, or at least a huge blaze. :? Do any of these have blue eyes? I'll have to take more time later to go though all this in depth, facinating...

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Re: Splash in Hackney Horses

Okay, I found a picture of the weird roanish stifle spot:

Scroll down for Stapleford The General
http://www.freewebs.com/hackneyhorseshow..." onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

OMG. lovely.

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Re: Splash in Hackney Horses

Yes the TWH is proven tobi (and looks it to me) but I see no other white on him besides his legs. VERY rare IMO.

I'm with you Morgan. They are very strange. You raise a good point, I haven't seen ANY blue eyes on these guys.

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:D http://www.candwr.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Splash in Hackney Horses

While I'm at it:

http://www.rainhillwelshcobs.com/profile..." onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And more Bracken Superb:

http://www.rainhillwelshcobs.com/profile..." onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What's the deal with Welshes and Hackneys? Are they related?

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These are truly some of the strangest markings. This has GOT to be some form of DW.

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Re: Splash in Hackney Horses

Check out this Hackney mare: IMAGE(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/thirdpeppermint/piebaldhackneymare.jpg)

DW at all?

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Re: Splash in Hackney Horses

Unless they have some wonky tobi variant (read a separate tobi mutation), that'd just about HAVE to be DW.

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Re: Splash in Hackney Horses

With Tobi piebald being common in England though, I'd still assume that Hackney had Tobi, but just with something else too.

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I didn't want to read through

I didn't want to read through all of this: did we have this guy included in the list yet? https://www.safehorses.org/?p=6227

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Until fairly recently Cobs

Until fairly recently Cobs and Hackneys were the same animal. My Farrier had a Hackney stallion that was registered WP&CS and Hackney Stud Book, both!
Welsh do not have Tobiano, I am fairly certain this is not Tobiano, but it could be Splash/Sabino or DW easily

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