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Silver Dunskin??

Adurna January 09, 2011 February 22, 2011

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Hey I introduce you my pony Dragon.Some people from Germany said he could be a Silver Dunskin or a palomino with a dun gene and sooty.Perhaps someone of you know this color or could say something to the basic color. When he has his winter coat he ist lighter then in the sommer.In the winter he has a red eel stripe/eel back ,in sommer it is darker. In his mane there are at least 3 colors white/grey,black/darkbrown and light brown/his coat color. I try to take photos but the photos with the sommer coat aren't very good.I hope you can help me. Adurna [img]http://i54.tinypic.com/6hjk2s.jpg[/img] in sommer coat [img]http://i52.tinypic.com/md2wx2.jpg[/img] sommer coat [img]http://i56.tinypic.com/25f5yxy.jpg[/img] sommer coat Other pictures in the appendix.In the last two pictures ist very much sun.Normally the mane isn't that brown. If you need more pictures please let me know.

RiddleMeThis Sun, 01/16/2011 - 07:08

[quote="Dogrose"]I think that way too, coming from a small animal colour perspective- wild type agouti is the default, anything else is the alteration/mutation. It is really weird to me how horse people see self black as the default and work from there, to me agouti is just not a dilute of self black, self black is agouti gone wrong.[/quote]
Because it is MUCH easier to teach that way. ESPECIALLY for people who struggle with genetics as it is.

And because there are so many breeds WITHOUT dun, bringing dun into it can and tends to confuse people.

Dogrose Sat, 01/22/2011 - 10:43

I guess dun could confuse things but agouti (bay) is pretty common and is still the normal state while self black is caused by a gene fault.

RiddleMeThis Sat, 01/22/2011 - 11:31

It's also because Extension is much more of a constant than agouti is. It's the base of ALL the colors and is easier to teach and that as the starting point because their are only "two" where with agouti you have at least 4. With extension you can just start with the simple stuff. If you start with agouti you have to explain the different levels, and you really end up confusing people. I know a few people who get the basics, but then try and explain to them that their are FOUR different things with agouti instead of two and it just blows peoples minds some times.

RiddleMeThis Sat, 01/22/2011 - 11:31

It's also because Extension is much more of a constant than agouti is. It's the base of ALL the colors and is easier to teach and that as the starting point because their are only "two" where with agouti you have at least 4. With extension you can just start with the simple stuff. If you start with agouti you have to explain the different levels, and you really end up confusing people. I know a few people who get the basics, but then try and explain to them that their are FOUR different things with agouti instead of two and it just blows peoples minds some times.

Monsterpony Sat, 01/22/2011 - 17:11

I agree that it is simpler to teach starting with extension. I use that method myself when conducting classes/lectures.

Dogrose Sat, 01/22/2011 - 18:40

I guess I'm too much of a geek, was reading Roy Robinson at 13 and giving my biology teacher genetics lessons :D
I would actually recommend Colour Inheritance in Small Livestock by Robinson as a good starter book for colour genetics though some of the more detailed species info is a bit out of date, its such an easy book to follow and understand.
ETA lucky horses don't have four extension alleles like rabbits :ugeek:

slaneyrose Mon, 01/31/2011 - 15:20

The stripes on the hooves are not typical triangular shape of silver, saying that, I too think there may be silver there along with dun.