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Pony, what color?

Holly October 09, 2009 February 22, 2011

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Another color question yall.... What color is Tigger??? His dam is a bay roan, graying. Sire is a silver bay or if its the other sire black tobiano. Tigger birth through now... [img]http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp317/ShyBon/4-6-0911am001.jpg[/img]\ [img]http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp317/ShyBon/5-23-09045.jpg[/img] [img]http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp317/ShyBon/10-06-093pm013.jpg[/img]

accphotography Fri, 10/09/2009 - 22:02

[quote="Holly"]Sorry Yall, I am talking about the foal ...[/quote]

So am I. ;) :D

Holly Fri, 10/09/2009 - 23:07

Thanks yall for responding.

Could yall explain how your getting the colors your guessing? I am really confused on how yall are seeing gray in this foal. I am also double confused on the palamino one.
I was thinking the gray specks in his hair was the roaning, unless the Dam is not a roan, just going gray. In that case I can see the gray in the foal. The dam was very much bay looking when I got her, except for the roaning. She has continued to get lighter every year, she is 4. So maybe she was just a bay with gray, no roan? And Tigger , the foal, is also just a bay going gray not roan?

I am not 100% positive on the sire, but this is a pic of the silver bay...
[img]http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp31…]

accphotography Fri, 10/09/2009 - 23:34

The sire is definitely a silver brown. The dam DEFINITELY is roan and gray IMO. I think I see a bay/brown base coat, but I'm suspicious of cream as it had to come from somewhere IMO.

The foal is clearly gray IMO, regardless of base color. The tone at birth and the huge color change from birth to present (let alone the goggles in the second pic) definitely point to gray.

The topline and mane scream palomino to me.

Holly Sat, 10/10/2009 - 00:03

I thought also that I saw googles around his eyes in that second pic, however it was actually he was shedding and he shed first around his eyes and his nose then down the rest of his body. Not saying he isnt gray as I suspected he may gray all along just because his dam is.
There has been times so far, (he is only 6 months old), that he has seemed to have more gray on his face than others.
His mane still has some foal color left on it from birth, but is very dark at the base, also it does have some gray mixed in.

Holly Sat, 10/10/2009 - 09:02

Wow, there are some very beautiful grays!

Thank you again everyone, I am learning and loving it!

rabbitsfizz Sat, 10/10/2009 - 12:46

Sire is Silver Bay, not sure where Brown came form??
The foal...well, I thought Chestnut going Grey, but it could equally be Silver Bay going Grey, but is definitely going Grey, whatever base.

accphotography Sat, 10/10/2009 - 14:16

Maybe you missed that distinct lighter muzzle. His head looks just like a seal brown... plus silver.

I'll stick to palomino going gray. Pretty confident about it.

Monsterpony Sat, 10/10/2009 - 14:23

Where are you getting the cream from, ACC? Neither dam or sire look cream at all. I'm going with Rabbit on this one, either chestnut or silver bay going grey.

accphotography Sat, 10/10/2009 - 14:34

I agree the sire doesn't look cream, but that doesn't necessarily mean he isn't. The dam could EASILY be cream IMO. I'm just so confident the foal is cream I haven't even worried myself about which parent it, because one must be.

lipigirl Sat, 10/10/2009 - 15:27

RMT - not they don't but to the trained eye you can see more than just bay going on.

Holly, please put us out of our misery and test the foal for cream. FWIW I also don't think it's a silver brown but a silver bay the sire..not that it's very different and I too have no idea where this cream is coming from either.

Thank you. ;)

RiddleMeThis Sat, 10/10/2009 - 15:33

[quote="lipigirl"]RMT - not they don't but to the trained eye you can see more than just bay going on.
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And I can see cream on the dams head. The very pale creamy hair around the eyes, and muzzle, scream cream to me.

colorfan Sun, 10/11/2009 - 11:02

I have had several palomino babies and a few chestnuts, none of which were similar to this baby. I don't se any cream in this baby.
Respectfully Acc what do you see that I am missing?

I havent seen a silver bay foal but since it seems bays are born with lighter legs which later turn dark I would agree this is a silver bay turning gray.

accphotography Sun, 10/11/2009 - 13:33

[quote="colorfan"]I have had several palomino babies and a few chestnuts, none of which were similar to this baby. I don't se any cream in this baby.
Respectfully Acc what do you see that I am missing?

I havent seen a silver bay foal but since it seems bays are born with lighter legs which later turn dark I would agree this is a silver bay turning gray.[/quote]

Ok... but have you seen a palomino going GRAY? ;) :D it makes a huge difference. Palominos going gray are not often born looking palomino.

rabbitsfizz Sun, 10/11/2009 - 13:50

There is no lighter muzzle, that is a normal, Silver Bay muzzle.
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/…]
This is Carlos, who has a much more prominent nose and is Silver Bay (pinto)
I also see no sign of cream in the foal, I cannot see how you can be so adamant when there really are no signs to indicate what you are suggesting is actually there! ;)

accphotography Sun, 10/11/2009 - 14:12

Your Carlos looks silver brown as well. :D but I guess we won't know until more people start testing for brown.

There's plenty of signs IMO. I'm adamant because I'm confident. It is very, very clear to me. I never even hesitated for a second. Only one other time have I been so sure about this, and tests proved me correct then.

colorfan Sun, 10/11/2009 - 15:32

nO, I have not seen a palomino going gray, just a chestnut going gray.
There is much about color I don't know. Years ago when someone explained what to look for to tell the difference between buckskin and dun it became obvious and easy, hence my question; what points do you look at, what clues do you see that make you so confident you see cream?

thank you