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Palouse.

Not been into "spots" but what colour would i call her exactly on her Rego papers? Obviously she's a Palouse (10.1 & 1/2hh), or she would just be Reg "Palouse" LOL i dunno!!! Old pic from about 3 yrs ago. Still very much the same now. [attachment=0]new_18thsept.jpg[/attachment]

Monsterpony Sun, 01/23/2011 - 23:13

Black varnish roan appaloosa. Hard to tell if she ever had a white patch/blanket. Any foal pictures? Also, why do you call her Palouse? Is that a color term for registration?

Danni Sun, 01/23/2011 - 23:16

Ponies seemed to get called "Palouse" and the big ones "Appaloosa"? Well except when they are called spotted... Actually I've heard ponies and cobs get called spotted a lot, and not really appaloosa. So would that make her Spotted Black Varnish Roan?

Kylie_80 Sun, 01/23/2011 - 23:21

Geez why can't it be as simple as Chestnut LOL.
Long names for colours nowadays LOL.

Monsterpony, i'm not into "spots" but now have 2 LOL & everyone calls the spotty ponies - Palouse so i have no idea, i'm calling it that as that's all i know - hence this thread LOL.
No foal pics as i just got her (for a 2nd time & she's staying now).

Will get a pic today of her in summer coat.
Thanks guys. :)

Danni Sun, 01/23/2011 - 23:28

Where are you registering her? If it's with a spotted/palouse society you could probably get away with saying Black Varnish? If it's a small pony/horse registry then probably Palouse would do?

Then if you had a website you could say the correct lengthy version of her colour LOL!

Monsterpony Sun, 01/23/2011 - 23:30

I just find it an odd name. Up until recently, I lived on the Palouse (home of the Appaloosa) and we don't call spotted ponies Palouses. But, then again, I do also find it odd that it is called appaloosa pattern even though the pattern has existed in other breeds for a lot longer than the Appaloosa horse has existed.

Kylie_80 Sun, 01/23/2011 - 23:38

[quote="Monsterpony"]I just find it an odd name. Up until recently, I lived on the Palouse (home of the Appaloosa) and we don't call spotted ponies Palouses. But, then again, I do also find it odd that it is called appaloosa pattern even though the pattern has existed in other breeds for a lot longer than the Appaloosa horse has existed.[/quote]

I'm in Australia, we do things differently over here LOL.

LOL Danni, will add her to my website soon, now i know her LONG colour name LOL.
Will Reg her Small Horse (or Little Horse i think for her) & Spotty.

Monsterpony Mon, 01/24/2011 - 00:05

I wasn't trying to be rude or anything. I was mostly just pondering allowed. I believe I have had this conversation with Diane while I was in NZ.

NZ Appaloosas Mon, 01/24/2011 - 00:20

Palouse is the term that is used for POAs down here...guess cuz they're not in the US so they can't be Ponies of America? LOL

Diane

Kylie_80 Mon, 01/24/2011 - 00:52

[quote="Monsterpony"]I wasn't trying to be rude or anything. I was mostly just pondering allowed. I believe I have had this conversation with Diane while I was in NZ.[/quote]

Oh no, that's cool, didn't think you were being rude LOL.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact i got this girl back - i don't (well didn't LOL) do spots! :rofl

critterkeeper Tue, 01/25/2011 - 09:56

Hey MP, I have an answer to the question of why they are called Appaloosa's, it was because they were from a selectively bred band of horse bred by the Nez Perce Indians along the Paloose River...they were named for the BREEDING not the color...lol Well at least according to what I "remember" from my younger days when I was living in eastern WA and really into them.

Monsterpony Tue, 01/25/2011 - 14:28

I know why Appaloosa breed is called that. I lived on the Palouse, next to Nez Perce county, a few miles from the home of the Appaloosa Horse Club main office and museum and saw the Appys in everyone's backyards. What I don't understand is why every other breed (that is not from the Palouse) is called appaloosa. Why would a knabstrupper be called appaloosa patterned when that breed is far older and well predates the arrival of horses on the Palouse.

Third Peppermint Tue, 01/25/2011 - 16:33

Appaloosas are faaaaaaaamous! That's why. I think the British version had it's name changed because of that. Didn't they used to be called British Spotted Horses or something?

Monsterpony Tue, 01/25/2011 - 18:20

When I was living in Ireland, I actually got into an argument with someone over the Appaloosa thing. There was an advert for an 'appaloosa' stallion for breeding up on a bulletin board. I was really confused as it looked like a knabstrupper type pony. At that time, I didn't know much about genetics, but I definitely knew what an Appaloosa looked like having lived on the Palouse. We got in a huge argument until it finally dawned on me that she was referring to the horse's color as appaloosa and not that it was a registered ApHC.

critterkeeper Tue, 01/25/2011 - 19:33

Oh, okay, I get it now...and you are right, some people just don't get the difference between "color" and "breed". :BH That is why I look for breeding, conformation and temperment before color when picking my "babies"...of course if you take for aforementioned and happened to get the later, so much the better.... :HB

Danni Tue, 01/25/2011 - 20:07

[quote="Third Peppermint"]Appaloosas are faaaaaaaamous! That's why. I think the British version had it's name changed because of that. Didn't they used to be called British Spotted Horses or something?[/quote]

I didn't know they had changed? I thought they still called them spotted? Or is that just ponies and cobs?

Monsterpony Tue, 01/25/2011 - 20:51

I guess for me, it is one of those things that I think is odd that it is a big deal outside the local area. Like Starbucks Coffee. I was quite shocked to find the local ol' coffee shop all over the world; I just didn't get that it was something people knew of outside the region.

Danni Wed, 01/26/2011 - 01:04

America in general is very good at the whole marketing thing ;) There is no doubt american products, word use etc.. is starting to dominate our commercial world.

It's not until the last few years that I'd ever really noticed terms like 'silver dapple', and appaloosas for me at least were more an particular breed(obviously with the colour though), but overall just local terms were used for colours. Being aware of different names, and using them is different. But I've definitely noticed much more usage of amercan terms for things in the last few years.

Third Peppermint Wed, 01/26/2011 - 05:18

[quote="Danni"]I didn't know they had changed? I thought they still called them spotted? Or is that just ponies and cobs?[/quote]

Last I checked, the ponies were split from the horses and are still called spotted. The spotted horse registry is definitely called Appaloosa now.

Danni Wed, 01/26/2011 - 06:26

Yeh I just read this:

The British Spotted Horse and Pony Society was formed in 1947 to keep a register and preserve them, and in 1976 the society split and the ponies under 14.2 hh were looked after by the British spotted Pony Society. The bigger ones were entered in the British Appaloosa Society registers

Although they can register horses now too?
http://www.britishspottedponysociety.co…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's not really that surprising, the naming I mean, the american appaloosa's were the most popular spotted breed around for a long time? Apaloosa became the catch phrase for nearly all things spotty? There is no doubt the US was at the forefront of accepting new and interesting colours as the norm, England hated different colours for ages! But I do hate that we have to accept american naming for all colours these days....