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Pali color progression photos?

Okay, I have an issue with several individuals that I want to put to rest. They all swear that Goldie is a light sorrel and NOT a palomino (chestnut/sorrel dam & cremello sire). And those that think she MIGHT be a palomino, swear she will stay the color she is now... :roll: I have tried to do all the genetic education I can, but I figure only pictures will help these people (only believe what you see mentality)... :hammer Reference photos [img]http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i99/jcritterkeeper/Goldieday4closeup…] [img]http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i99/jcritterkeeper/Goldiescountershad…] Okay, here is what I am asking...does anyone on here have progression photos of a palomino foal from birth to say 2 or 3 yrs? Or at least to foal shed? I want to be able to show the color progression so these people will quit saying I am delusional, crazy or blind...(rather rude aren't they? but as they are "family" I can't do much about them :laugh1 )

Sara Wed, 05/06/2009 - 13:20

I do, but they won't help your case because my palomino foal was much paler than yours at birth. She is now, however, shedding to a very gold (and maybe dappled?) two year old coat.

critterkeeper Wed, 05/06/2009 - 13:34

Actually that may prove my point on her being at least THAT dark a gold...several are saying that she is too dark to be a pali or if she is, that means she will be lighter when she sheds out. My research indicates the darker the foal at birth the darker the gold in adult hood. And, as there doesn't appear to be any sooty in either Maya or Luna so I wouldn't expect any in the foal (but who knows with sooty) so she should be a clean, clear dark golden pali (right?). :sign

Sara Wed, 05/06/2009 - 13:43

Well, here's Diana then. You'll have to wait a bit for the current pics because I haven't snapped any since she started shedding but I can get you some in the next day or so.

newborn:

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/…]

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/…]

the gold that came in when she scratched herself at two months:

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/…]

Spring of yearling year:

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/…]

okay now I'm confused because I can't find the photos I took of her last summer. I'll have to look for those and get back to you. I actually don't take very many photos of this horse.

accphotography Wed, 05/06/2009 - 15:32

How very, very irritating. Simply explain to them the genetics of a cremello. Unless you have another stallion running around... Besides, she's CLEARLY visibly palomino. I'd ask them to show me one single sorrel foal that was born looking like that. I guarantee they can't. :rofl :rofl :rofl

Birth:
[img]http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh24…]

Current:
[img]http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh24…]

Birth:
[img]http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/nobucks/co…]

Dry and looking dark:
[img]http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/nobucks/co…]

Current:
[img]http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/nobucks/co…]

Birth:
[img]http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/nobucks/zi…]

Dry:
[img]http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/nobucks/zi…]

Current:
[img]http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/nobucks/zi…]

That last one is going to be dark.

critterkeeper Thu, 05/07/2009 - 10:25

Thank you all - that helps a lot...I printed out the examples so I can show them the progression. You know it figures, the first sunny day in WEEKS and I pulled something yesterday and can hardly walk :sad ...it is horrible. :BH

Maigray Thu, 05/07/2009 - 18:38

Luna could easily throw sooty into the mix, as it wouldn't show in his coat. I am also used to darker palomino foals shedding out sooty, but not always. The Norsire site has some fine examples, if they'll look on a computer.

hoofpick Sat, 05/09/2009 - 18:17

The stallion in my avatar was born the same color as yours as a foal and my pic is when he was a 2 year old everyone said to me he will be chestnut.