Gypsy foal

Tobiano and splash and probably frame.

If he is purebred he is shouldn't have frame.

Well I don't know anything about gypsies and I didn't think black tails were very typical for tobi, but I don't know what they are typical for.

I see tobi, splash and sabino. Since until very recently Gypsy horses were just a cob type (and still are in the British Isles), can you really consider them purebred enough to not have to worry about frame?

I've never agreed they were purebred enough. PLENTY of other colors have seeped into them somehow, including pearl. Considering some pearl lines also carry frame, those horses could just as easily have had it.

They being said, I don't believe frame would hold tobi off a tail. I think that was merely coincidence here. The face is definitely splash.

By purebred I meant nothing outside UK breed horses. There are imported frame horses in the UK but I can't see anyone wanting to breed a gypsy to them!
Not sure about the pearl- could be new from US imports or could be an old line with the same roots.

I agree with Dogrose - we don't have Frame here unless it is from Imported horses and it would be a strange cross ! Not saying it hasn't already be done but its not that likely.

Gypsy cobs are not generally purebred but they are SO common over here like part of the landscape, I think though some breeders and travellers are VERY picky over what they breed with and so they are becoming more pure as time goes on..if that makes sense.

I also see Splash, Tobi and poss Sabino.

It depends entirely on where the foal was born.
If it was in the UK then a) there is no such thing as "purebred" they are an unrecognised type of Cob (albeit a fairly old lineaged one...well, until recently when the States got interested and then people started breeding "gypsy" Cobs form anything that had splashes above the knee...do NOT get me started!!)
b) There is no Frame.

If it is Oz it is a possibility as that is where some of the Champagne ones are....I am pretty sure from the background it is not the US

The foal looks a very typical Splash Sabino + Tobiano to me!

[quote="rabbitsfizz"]It depends entirely on where the foal was born.
If it was in the UK then a) there is no such thing as "purebred" they are an unrecognised type of Cob (albeit a fairly old lineaged one...well, until recently when the States got interested and then people started breeding "gypsy" Cobs form anything that had splashes above the knee...do NOT get me started!!)
b) There is no Frame.

If it is Oz it is a possibility as that is where some of the Champagne ones are....[color=#FF4000]I am pretty sure from the background it is not the US[/color]

The foal looks a very typical Splash Sabino + Tobiano to me![/quote]

Actually RF - that area looks a lot like the Triad/Foothills area of North Carolina and Southwestern Virginia/West Virginia. I am sure a lot of other areas that have large bedrock close to the surface (this area of NC if world famous for it's granite - HUGE deposits of it everywhere).

Erm....how to be polite here? (As I am aware that not everyone is as lucky as me as regards grazing etc but I have worked my tiny backside off getting rid of all my barbed wire...) the background looks typically British/ Antipodean!!!! ;)

Settle petals!!! :rofl It is Tasmania. The sire and dam were imported into Australia last year from the UK. I'll put up some of Dad...

Oh dear they didn't come out well at all... I'll try again...
Sorry best I could do...
Oh by the way rabbit you can stop cringing :flower It's not barbed it's "ring lock" used for sheep and great for horses as they can't poke anything through and get stuck. There is a top wire that is electric (can't see it in the pic). I see how it looked like barbed but it's the wool caught on it from the sheep rubbing.

LOL, well I knew that Hoofie was an Aussie.

Beg to differ about the ringlock though, you can get shocking injuries from it as it can wrap around their legs & tighten.
Would have to say it is worse IMO than barb.
Having said that, horses can hurt themselves on any type of fencing, we just have to do the best we can.

Great markings on the foal, love the splash blaze.

Agreed, we call it Pig Netting, or possibly Sheep Netting and I have seen some really nasty injuries form horses putting shod hooves through it and then getting their shoes caught and pulling back!!
But to get back to the horses, Sire looks a nice sort of Cob Pony, loads of bone and feather, and obviously then we can rule out LWO...just for the record though, it would be nice if we, as can be afforded, actually started testing even our known to be free form LWO animals and registering this status on our registration forms.
Since at present neither the AMHA nor the BMHS offers this service I plan on asking them both if they will....if the status of certain pinto animals starts to be recorded people will start to look for it and then, hopefully, to ask for it.
This can only be a good thing, I think.

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I think I've seen something like that fence called "horse fencing" over here. They can get hurt on anything though :? Sissy cut her leg bad on field fencing (like that stuff but bigger holes) which was suposed to be safe and I've known a horse that got cut up real bad when run into straight wire and they can even get stuck under a board fence or get a bad bruise when they run into it. I'm very happy with my electric rope now though, it's been totally destroyed a few times and not a scratch on the horse and you can put it back together in 10 minutes.

I have seen it called "field fencing" or "Stock Fencing" in the States, and you are absolutely correct when you say a horse, (Particularly horses!) can hurt itself on any kind of fencing.
I had post and rail and my favourite mare broke her neck on it.
We can only make it as safe as we can, at the end of the day.

I've heard of a horse breaking a leg jumping into a tree (I mean actually into the branches not just crashing into it) in the field :| Horses are great clumsy things aren't they?

(Running out to buy materials for padded rooms.... :flower )

It is crazy what all they can injure themselves on. I know we have never really had any serious injuries with the wire fence,electric,board,barbed wire on top a wire fence and pure barbed wire (was an old cattle field that we have not been able to replace). When I say serious I mean basically anything major enough for a vet call, but we still get little scrapes here and there. My favorite is still the electric that is easy to break, but I can't remember what it is called exactly, but it is not the pure wire stuff.

They don't even need a fence LOL

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[quote="hoofpick"](Running out to buy materials for padded rooms.... :flower )[/quote]

That won't work, either, because they'll eat the padding and colic!

RMT tell us more - was the horse injured and how did they get it out ect ???? :shock:

Apparently the horse only got a few minor scrapes, and had to be cut out with a chainsaw, but is fine.

Heres a short little news snippet about it
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A lot of articles come up if you google "horse stuck in tree"

[quote="hoofpick"](Running out to buy materials for padded rooms.... :flower )[/quote]
Then go into it and close the door and let the flipping horses get on with it :rofl

Horses are the most accident prone things on the planet....UNLESS, you are an ignorant, low intelligenced, moron who keeps his horses in with barbed wire, baler twine and sheer luck.
It helps if you also have a one balled colt running with your mare (who is his mother) but that's OK as he's an "Appaloosa" (he has some white flecks on his bum and is the ugliest, [i]fugliest[/i]thing I have [i]ever[/i] seen) so you do not mind if he covers her!!! Even though she is chronically laminitic!! Then, of course, nothing ever gets hurt!!

:rofl :rofl :rofl RF

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[quote="critterkeeper"][quote="rabbitsfizz"]It depends entirely on where the foal was born.
If it was in the UK then a) there is no such thing as "purebred" they are an unrecognised type of Cob (albeit a fairly old lineaged one...well, until recently when the States got interested and then people started breeding "gypsy" Cobs form anything that had splashes above the knee...do NOT get me started!!)
b) There is no Frame.

If it is Oz it is a possibility as that is where some of the Champagne ones are....[color=#FF4000]I am pretty sure from the background it is not the US[/color]

The foal looks a very typical Splash Sabino + Tobiano to me![/quote]

Actually RF - that area looks a lot like the Triad/Foothills area of North Carolina and Southwestern Virginia/West Virginia. I am sure a lot of other areas that have large bedrock close to the surface (this area of NC if world famous for it's granite - HUGE deposits of it everywhere).[/quote]

Just for arguments sake, looks a lot like central Texas as well.

ETA: Rabbit, you are so right it's not even funny. Speaking of Texas....... we have lots of people like that here.

[quote="Dogrose"]By purebred I meant nothing outside UK breed horses. There are imported frame horses in the UK but I can't see anyone wanting to breed a gypsy to them!
Not sure about the pearl- could be new from US imports or could be an old line with the same roots.[/quote]

So far the Pearl tested Gypsy horses are either imported from the UK or still in the UK and none that have been tested have tested positive for Champagne.

I remember that horse in the tree story. I had a young goat get her head (horned) stuck upside down in a tree fork, I felt bad for her when I heard her screaming and went to rescue her but it was pretty darn hilarious when you actually saw it >.<