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Andrea
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What is tt
http://agdirect.com/scripts/hrsdetl.exe?1252442372&0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; So this is a smokey silver black? What is tt?
Heather
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Not tobiano..

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How can they guarantee a non-black foal if he is black based and not homozygous for any of his carried colours?

[color=#804000][i]I bought me a horse twas called a grey mare
Grey mane and grey tail and green stripe on her back
Grey mane and grey tail and green stripe on her back
Weren't a hair upon her that was not coal black[/i][/color]

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Is that supposed to be At and why does he looks so silver bay instead !!???????????? weird ! :? :?

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No he's truly black based so no At. Cream and silver together sometimes goes this light.

They can guarantee no blacks just like some stallion owners give a color guarantee on their overos. They just offer a rebreed if you get the "wrong" color. There's only about a 12.5% chance of him having a black foal and that's not counting what gene the mare may offer (agouti, another red gene, etc.).

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Maybe he's AA and they just didn't put that on the DNA gene listing?

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Nope he's 'aa'. I've seen his results somewhere. Not to mention they call him "smokey silver dapple" which definitely implies black based.

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AA wouldn't change his black status, just that with the Ee, he'd be AA Ee, and guaranteed bay or chestnut. We've a mare like that--and breeding her to Wap Spotted guarantees we'll never get anything but bay :rofl (he's EEAa and she's EeAA :BH)

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Oh yes I know (Lace is AA as well). I meant his BLACK base... aka 'aa'. Not his black base... aka 'E_'. :lol:

I am 100% certain this horse is 'aa'.

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The service fee knocked me flat out .... oh my ...

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That doesn't seem that much to me. I've seen some GV's without color commanding $5k.

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Well to me it's really daft - you could get it for £200 over here - madness !!!! :rofl

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I agree, they're awfully proud of him. Even with an unusual color. But.....It seems that what's rare in one country is fairly common in another? I faint every time I see the stud fee for a Friesian over here. And cringe when I see what a good QH (stud, mare, foal) brings at the right side of the Atlantic.

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No, be fair, Lipi you couldn't not any more and not with guaranteed "colour" although I have not time for that.
As a stallion, and I am not convinced this horse has stallion potential, he is too clumsy for my liking but I have not seen him move so I shall give him the benefit of the doubt and say , as a stallion, he would command around £2,000- £5,000.00 over here, if he had a show record.
A friends proven show winning Broken Coloured Cob mare, with no pedigree and no DNA of h/Z- H/Z (she is Tobiano Splash + probably Sabino) cost £8,000.00 and , to my way of thinking, is a fairly mediocre animal with a good conformation.
They are going to breed her by egg transplant, so I got involved with the pattern testing thing as they knew nothing about it, now they plan to have her tested as, obviously, should she be H/Z the range of stallion they could use is far greater.
Me, I would not bother, as said she is mediocre!
This stallion, if he can move, is OK, I guess, but as said there can be NO guarantee of colour.
If he is just another "rare" colour animal, he is worth maybe £2,000.00 as a riding gelding!
He is h/Z Cream, and h/Z Silver, so nothing rare or worth breeding for colour there, then?

Oops.....you were referring to his stud fee???
Sorry.
That'll learn me to scan instead of reading properly!!
OK, stud fees are usually around £250.00 to £500.00 depending on what the horse is and what you get, I paid £250.00 for using a Fewspot this year, so guaranteed pattern of some sort.
Whatever their bragging says, nothing is guaranteed with this horse, so I would set his fee at around £300-$400.00 depending on his foals and what they look like and his show record.

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No, be fair, Lipi you couldn't not any more and not with guaranteed "colour" although I have not time for that.
As a stallion, and I am not convinced this horse has stallion potential, he is too clumsy for my liking but I have not seen him move so I shall give him the benefit of the doubt and say , as a stallion, he would command around £2,000- £5,000.00 over here, if he had a show record.
A friends proven show winning Broken Coloured Cob mare, with no pedigree and no DNA of h/Z- H/Z (she is Tobiano Splash + probably Sabino) cost £8,000.00 and , to my way of thinking, is a fairly mediocre animal with a good conformation.
They are going to breed her by egg transplant, so I got involved with the pattern testing thing as they knew nothing about it, now they plan to have her tested as, obviously, should she be H/Z the range of stallion they could use is far greater.
Me, I would not bother, as said she is mediocre!
This stallion, if he can move, is OK, I guess, but as said there can be NO guarantee of colour.
If he is just another "rare" colour animal, he is worth maybe £2,000.00 as a riding gelding!
He is h/Z Cream, and h/Z Silver, so nothing rare or worth breeding for colour there, then?

Oops.....you were referring to his stud fee???
Sorry.
That'll learn me to scan instead of reading properly!!
OK, stud fees are usually around £250.00 to £500.00 depending on what the horse is and what you get, I paid £250.00 for using a Fewspot this year, so guaranteed pattern of some sort.
Whatever their bragging says, nothing is guaranteed with this horse, so I would set his fee at around £300-$400.00 depending on his foals and what they look like and his show record.

:lol: I was reading this thinking where would you pay that for a stud fee for a GV !!!! Then read on...yes it is funny how rarity due to location seems to change things ! ;)