What color is my filly? I say GRAY!!! (pic heavy)

Looks like a bay or a blue roan with the greying gene to me, but I've never seen a roan foal so I'm probably wrong, I heard that when they grey they are born with the 'adult' version of their base color.

She is definitely Grey. as the sire is....BUT I do wonder if there is Dun in there as well???
The Grey sire seems to have a face mask.

Sire is supposedly gray and roan on black dun. Mare looks gray on bay to me as well.

i think it's really odd that both brother and sister have the roaned out facial markings. I don't see that often. Maybe it's my monitor?
you can really see it in these:
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb25…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb25…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
^star and strip^

Oh yeah!- From those she's definitely Grey (+Roan)!
I think base colour Bay.

bay roan goin grey :)
she has a lovley look to her as well :)

i think it's really odd that both brother and sister have the roaned out facial markings. I don't see that often. Maybe it's my monitor?
you can really see it in these:
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb25…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb25…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
^star and strip^

I'm sorry there is NO WAY she is roan...I totally don't buy it at all.
Plus those aren't roaned out. She was born with that small star & her brother wasn't born with any facial white at all.
Plus roan doesn't effect the face...all that is gray!!

The sire was born grullo. As you can see in the pics he's grayed out over the years.
Doesn't exhibit roan, but could be hidden by the gray as he's sired roan foals out of non roan mares.
Only 4 roans total, that I know of.
No one ever said anything about him being gray, they always called it "silver."

i think it's really odd that both brother and sister have the roaned out facial markings. I don't see that often. Maybe it's my monitor?
you can really see it in these:
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb25…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
^star^
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb25…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
^star and strip^

I'm sorry there is NO WAY she is roan...I totally don't buy it at all.
Plus those aren't roaned out. She was born with that small star & her brother wasn't born with any facial white at all.
Plus roan doesn't effect the face...all that is gray!!

I never said she was roan, I said she had a roany looking marking. I wasn't referring to the color "roan" I meant that the pattern had roaned, like her roany sock. I've never seen grey put dark hairs in a white marking, so it's not grey. It reminds me of the markings on a chestnut mare that we posted about a while back, but I don't know if it was on this board, the old one, or the other one.....
*eta*
yeah, it was on the old one....
anyone remember that horse's name??

To be honest I don't think its an actual star...as there is no pink skin...just some white/gray hairs.
So I wouldn't call it that. IMO she has no white markings at all.
Its just the gray taking over her face color....IMO!!

Sorry didn't mean to sound harsh.

The foal shed pics say she is also a roan I would say she is a roan going gray and dad is a grullo roan gone gray.

I must be totally blind as I see nothin that says roan.
I see gray everywhere I look!!

Plus roan doesn't effect the face...all that is gray!![/b][/color]

Appy roan does, and well, we know that all the appy isn't out of the blood in the QH registry yet... Pedigree?

Diane

Plus roan doesn't effect the face...all that is gray!![/b][/color]

Negative for gray (was tested)

Sires ped. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/wampus+…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Dams ped. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/hta+ms+…" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[color=#8000BF][b]To be honest I don't think its an actual star...as there is no pink skin...just some white/gray hairs.
So I wouldn't call it that.

Our Arabian horse registry records faint markings (no underlying pink skin).

[color=#8000BF][b]To be honest I don't think its an actual star...as there is no pink skin...just some white/gray hairs.
So I wouldn't call it that.

Our Arabian horse registry records faint markings (no underlying pink skin).

I want to say TBs do too, or at least, I found some paperwork from when my granny owned some racehorses, and remember them being super detailed, down to the whirls in the hair.

Bay roan going gray.

I want to say TBs do too, or at least, I found some paperwork from when my granny owned some racehorses, and remember them being super detailed, down to the whirls in the hair.

Yep, the Arabian Registry records swirl patterns, where they're placed and the direction in which they swirl too.

Well AQHA has it recorded on her papers as a star

RMT, is he just classic roan on steroids or is he app-roan?

Diane

He's AQHA. Dam is solid and sire was thought to be just gray but obviously is both.

Actually my bad. The foal is APHA (dam bay tobiano, no roan... sire AQHA).

Hmmm, doesn't answer my question! :laugh1 Remember, I've seen a blanket-patterned foal pop out of a 'pure' APHA breeding program. Do a progeny search on allbreeds of Cooterville Norrel's Little Red (might be two "L"s in Norrel, I can never remember how to spell it). You'll find he has progeny in all three stock breeds, but searching AQHA and/or APHA won't show you any, as he had a different name while breeding AQHA and APHA mares. :rofl

Diane

He has no app characteristics and neither do his parents.

Neither did Reminic in Spots parents :laugh1

Diane

The look she had in Dec 08 - more roaned out- compared to now seems to perhaps indicate roan as well. But then grey on top yes. She's really cute and the color of the sire and the brother too is striking.

The look she had in Dec 08 - more roaned out- compared to now seems to perhaps indicate roan as well. But then grey on top yes. She's really cute and the color of the sire and the brother too is striking.

That was because she was blanketed.
I still have a hard time buying roan as everything I see says gray from birth till now.

I am curious why you think she can't be both?
Do you not like the idea she could be roan?

I am curious why you think she can't be both?
Do you not like the idea she could be roan?

Its possible, but nothin "I see" says roan. Even when she started her color change...gray is the only thing I thought & saw.
Honestly I never wanted a roan...not a huge fan. Although I've seen some beautiful ones.
Just not my thing...just a preference.

I'll take any roans ;)