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Testing Facilities: Who: Veterinary Genetics Laboratory at UC Davis What they test for: Extension, Agouti, Champagne, Cream, Dun Zygosity, Frame (LWO), Gray, Pearl, Roan Zygosity, Sabino 1, Silver, Tobiano, Cerebellar Abiotrophy (CA), Glycogen Branching Enzyme Deficiency (GBED), Hereditary Equine Regional Dermal Asthenia (HERDA) and Hyperkalemic Periodic Paralysis (HYPP). Testing costs: Extension and Agouti combined $40, all other color tests $25. Dun and Roan zygosity tests $50 each. CA, GBED and HYPP $50. HERDA $40. Contact: http://vgl.ucdavis.edu/services/horse.php" ----- Who: Gluck Equine Research Center at University of Kentucky What they test for: Extension, Agouti, Champagne, Cream, Frame (LWO), Sabino 1, Silver, Tobiano and Junctional Epidermolysis Bullosa (JEB). Testing costs: $45 each. If testing for 3 or more on the same horse tests are $35 each. Frame (LWO) and JEB are $50 each. Contact: http://www.ca.uky.edu/gluck/AGTRL.asp ------ Who: Animal Genetics Incorporated What they test for: Extension, Agouti, Champagne, Cream, Frame (LWO), Gray, Pearl, Sabino 1, Silver, Tobiano, Hereditary Equine Regional Dermal Asthenia (HERDA) and Hyperkalemic Periodic Paralysis (HYPP). Testing costs: $25 each for color tests. $30 each for HERDA and HYPP. $50 for HERDA and HYPP combined. Contact: http://animalgenetics.us/Equine.htm ----- Who: DNA Diagnostics Inc. What they test for: Extension, Agouti, Champagne, Cream, Frame (LWO), Sabino 1, Silver, Tobiano, Glycogen Branching Enzyme Deficiency (GBED), Hereditary Equine Regional Dermal Asthenia (HERDA), Hyperkalemic Periodic Paralysis (HYPP), Junctional Epidermolysis Bullosa (JEB) and Polysaccharide Storage Myopathy (PSSM). Testing costs: $40 includes EVERY test (as well as DNA typing for parentage verification).

Results can be very slow. I'm talking like 5 months from received date slow. There has also been considerable reason not to trust their results.

Contact: http://www.dnadiagnostics.com/animal_genetics.html#horses1 ----- Who: Pet DNA Services of AZ What they test for: Seal Brown Testing costs: $40 Contact: http://www.petdnaservicesaz.com/Equine.html Published articles pertaining to equine color: Champagne: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2535566 Cream: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12605854 and http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11736803 Dominant White (first four): http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2065884 Extension: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8995760 Frame: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11197568 Link between night blindness and Leopard Complex (LP): http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2516064 Roan: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10051325 Sabino 1: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16284805 Silver: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1617113 Tobiano: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18410476 Relationship between expression of white patterns and extension status: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2013690 I will post more article and/or the full articles as I find them.
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Thanks very much, I'm sure this will be super useful for members. I'll try and contribute too.

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Thanks! Hopefully you'll have more luck than I did with the articles.

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Testing costs: $40 includes EVERY test

Are you serious? How slow is "Results can be very slow."? LOL

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Well, my test took over 3 months. :D I wasn't exactly exaggerating. They do what they say and they are exceptionally nice and good to work with, but they are slow. Apparently they hold the tests until they have a bunch to run at one time. Sometimes I suppose you could get lucky and only have a weeks wait, or you could be like me and have the whole time.

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Here's a VERY interesting little tidbit on white expression with relation to extension status:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2013690

I'll add that to the main post.

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Wow ACC this is great! Thanks! :-bd :bounce :bounce

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so now its not just red has more white marking but Ee has more than EE? neat. :shock:
I wonder if that only applies to the sabino type markings though?

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so are those LWO tested or splasy blue eyed 'solids' all black, I can't remember but I am thinking all the posted ones that i have seen are black or bay. And are they EE? hmmmmm

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so are those LWO tested or splasy blue eyed 'solids' all black, I can't remember but I am thinking all the posted ones that i have seen are black or bay. And are they EE? hmmmmm

now that you say it.....hmmmm....

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I personally think it applies to all white patterning genes. The reds are always more colorful IME.

Gee... how much white would Lace have had if she had been black (or bay as it were since she's AA).

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so are those LWO tested or splasy blue eyed 'solids' all black, I can't remember but I am thinking all the posted ones that i have seen are black or bay. And are they EE? hmmmmm

now that you say it.....hmmmm....

If I read the article correctly, it was dealing with Arabians, so it would not be LWO. Right????

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I think she's referring to other colored horses as a whole.

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Well, my test took over 3 months. :D I wasn't exactly exaggerating. They do what they say and they are exceptionally nice and good to work with, but they are slow. Apparently they hold the tests until they have a bunch to run at one time. Sometimes I suppose you could get lucky and only have a weeks wait, or you could be like me and have the whole time.

OMG Ive just seen this ! does it still take that long ? I sent samples off three weeks ago , Im wishing Id sent them somewhere else now :roll:

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Yes it does. In fact I need to add a further disclaimer to the original post. I don't trust their results whatsoever. I know several people who not only had difficulty with the time it took, but had several results proven wrong and alot of other fishy things. I wouldn't recommend them again. I've even reconsidered testing my mare elsewhere. Hopefully you won't have any trouble with yours.

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Hey what sort of things were wrong? I have a friend with quite a few horses to do and certainly likes the idea of all the colours plus the parentage DNA for costing her heaps less. So she shouldn't do it? Could the parantage be wrong too? I wish they'd make it work, it would make it much easier!!!

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I *think* it was things like a horse not testing the way it should have, or was thought to supposed to be, so they did retesting until they got the 'right' result. Also I could be completely wrong and remembering a whole nother case. Also can you keep us posted on if there are any other places that have an 'all in one' testing type thing?

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Nope that's correct. They were getting multiple different results, results that weren't jiving with other labs, having to repeat tests several times, etc.

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Im still waiting and now even when I do get the results it seems they can't be trusted :booty :hammer :BH

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Is anyone else waiting for results from Dna Diagnostics ,shelterwood Laboratories ? I sent samples in from two horses (veriSNP) back in september and Im still waiting for results nearly four months on , they wont even answer my emails and they are very vague on the phone :BH :BH :BH :hammer :hammer :hammer

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I don't know of anyone still waiting, but I waited 3 months when I sent mine in so I'm not surprised. They wait until they can run a whole "batch" at one time, and given the last fiasco when a bunch of people learned never to use them again, I suspect they're going to have a hard time getting full batches in the future.

You can keep trying to call them, but I'm not sure it's going to get you anywhere. They're just...... I don't even know what to call them. You should see their BBB rating these days.

Unless you really need to test for almost every gene it might be easier to just send some hair to Animal Genetics for the things you most need to know.

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I am not sure how new this is but pet DNA services of AZ tests donkeys for red factor and pangare!
I am excited about this because I had not heard of any donkey tests anywhere!

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Well, my test took over 3 months. :D I wasn't exactly exaggerating. They do what they say and they are exceptionally nice and good to work with, but they are slow. Apparently they hold the tests until they have a bunch to run at one time. Sometimes I suppose you could get lucky and only have a weeks wait, or you could be like me and have the whole time.

OMG Ive just seen this ! does it still take that long ? I sent samples off three weeks ago , Im wishing Id sent them somewhere else now :roll:

just thought Id let you know that after months of hounding them with emails Ive recieved an answer telling me the tests are complete :shock: and the results are in the post (10 feb ) .....its only taken FIVE MONTHS !!!!!!

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*sigh* I will got back and put a warning on my original post.

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how come you say that they may not be reliable? (in terms of testing accuracy)
thinking of getting gambol tested with them.. he may have cream I feel! such an odd color. 'course, he's appy patterned too lol. I'm in no rush for the results and I likey the price.

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Because they change their results at the drop of a hat. If you call and question a result they will say "oops, no, sorry it's actually ____". If they don't change it, they say "oh we need to re run that test". They've also reported multiple results that directly conflict with other labs (in some cases, multiple labs).

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how annoying! now to find another cheap source... love UC Davis, but too pricey for moi on this one.

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Agreed. Animal Genetics is hands down the best IMO. However, when UC Davis comes out with THEIR SNP test... *faints* That's going to change the world!

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Just wanted to add that I'm currently awaiting test results from DNA Diagnostics. They've been very helpful and informative every time I've talked to them on the phone, and said to expect my results any day now (sent hair on 1-28).

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just thought Id let you know that after months of hounding them with emails Ive recieved an answer telling me the tests are complete :shock: and the results are in the post (10 feb ) .....its only taken FIVE MONTHS !!!!!!

Did you get them yet?

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