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seal brown buckskin

I hope this didn't belong in the seal brown discussion, it didn't look like there was any recent activity there.

Does anyone know if you can ever get a buckskin that actually looks like one from a brown cross?  The pictures I've seen of brown buckskins look very much like plain brown horses.

My sis is breeding a seal brown TB mare to double dilute cremello Lusitano stallion. Mare has produced a light chestnut foal so must be ee. She may or may not be AA, her sire was chestnut with a bay parent and her dam was a very dark brown who looked black.  The mare shows a lot less black than her dam, has a lot of tan in her flanks and on her stomach and bleaches out and dapples a lot in the summer.  Anyone have a guess as to whether a buckskin foal could actually look like one and not like a brown horse with more tan?  I am hoping for a palomino. :-)

 

thanks. judi

Daylene Alford Tue, 02/03/2015 - 14:53

Seal brown is recessive to regular bay so it would depend on what the sire carries.   If the mare is obviously seal brown then she is most likely Ata which also gives the possibility of smokey blacks again, depending on the sire.  

Something to also consider, gray is very common in the Spanish breeds.  If either of the sire's parents were gray then he could be "hiding" gray under the double dilute.  

judiw Wed, 02/04/2015 - 16:44

In reply to by Daylene Alford

Thanks!  We have always called the mare brown but I have seen some colts by her paternal grandsire who look like they are a little lighter with the same 'pattern/genetics'  she has so I don't know.  I will try to put a picture on the color ID thread. 

I noticed the hidden grey in them, the stallion does have a buckskin dam who greyed but according to the ad has been tested to be eeAaCrCr. I did the color calculator with what I know and it came out 50% palomino, 37.5% buckskin and 12.5% smokey black if the mare is Aa.  If shes AA+ or A+A+ it was 50% each buckskin and palomino.

 

Daylene Alford Fri, 02/06/2015 - 17:16

Horses that are homozygous (AtAt) of brown are often lighter than those with only one.    That he has been tested eeAaCrCr does not mean that he has does not carry gray.  He may never have been tested for gray.